Camlock vs latch type harnesses
Is it worth the hassle to save a buck on the harnesses? I've got a out of spec 4 point Saebelt. I want to upgrade to a 6-point. Most HPDE events require identical setups for driver and passenger. A Latch harness is half the cost, but the only experience I have with a latch is in my dads old biplane and it was simple enough to use. My current four point is a camlock.
I guess I could just get the crotch belts for the current harness and by a latch for the passenger. I'll only go to 1-3 events per year. I hate to spend th emoney for the passenger belt when it will sit unused accept for the occasional track event and passenger around town. EDIT: Where can you belt belt components. i.e. just the crotch belts??? |
No. Latch and link is a huge pain in the ass. G-Force sells FIA-rated 6-point camlock belts for under $200, so there's no excuse.
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G Force sucks, you want Crow. They are better in every way and re-web for like $50.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 824232)
No. Latch and link is a huge pain in the ass. G-Force sells FIA-rated 6-point camlock belts for under $200, so there's no excuse.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 824245)
G Force sucks, you want Crow. They are better in every way and re-web for like $50.
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Originally Posted by njn63
(Post 824270)
Schroth Clubmans are also under $200.
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I have an extra G-Force I could sell that is good until 2014. Camlock 6point. Although I wn't be back home until Feb 9th-ish.
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How about pull-down vs pull-up style harness?
What is easier for use in a miata? -Raj |
Originally Posted by redrider706
(Post 824289)
How about pull-down vs pull-up style harness?
What is easier for use in a miata? -Raj |
Originally Posted by redrider706
(Post 824289)
How about pull-down vs pull-up style harness?
What is easier for use in a miata? -Raj
Originally Posted by djp0623
(Post 824172)
Is it worth the hassle to save a buck on the harnesses? I've got a out of spec 4 point Saebelt. I want to upgrade to a 6-point. Most HPDE events require identical setups for driver and passenger. A Latch harness is half the cost, but the only experience I have with a latch is in my dads old biplane and it was simple enough to use. My current four point is a camlock.
I guess I could just get the crotch belts for the current harness and by a latch for the passenger. I'll only go to 1-3 events per year. I hate to spend th emoney for the passenger belt when it will sit unused accept for the occasional track event and passenger around town. EDIT: Where can you belt belt components. i.e. just the crotch belts??? |
pull up for the lap belts, pull down for the shoulder.
camlock is worth it. Scroth Clubman is a good choice. Probably the best of the "cheap" stuff. I actually like the shoulder harness adjuster more than the profi, its smoother for some reason, while the Profi lets go very quickly. Not sure if its really an advantage, but it could be good for peace of mind. The clubman uses 3" belts all around, while the profi uses 2" sub and waist harnesses. I currently run a profi for the driver and a clubman for the passenger...Profi is really comfy. I daily with it on and can't say I have any complaints. |
Pull down camlock is the only way to go. Leave the latch style in the 60's where it belongs. I had one latch harness and it hit the trash can within 2-3 uses.
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 824328)
I went with pull down because G-Force's pull down is FIA rated (5 year) where the pull up is not (SFI 2 year). I have no complaints with the pull down.
Originally Posted by djp0623
(Post 824172)
Most HPDE events require identical setups for driver and passenger.
EDIT: Where can you belt belt components. i.e. just the crotch belts??? You can email Sabelt or a Sabelt dealer, but unless there's another slot in your existing camlock to accommodate the tab of a nut strap, anything else you do to add one is probably going to be janky as hell. If I were you I'd just get 2 sets of the discounted G-forces and be done with it. That will get you on track with decent camlocks for both seats. There are nicer harnesses than G-force if you want to spend the money, but I've been happy with mine and I'll be keeping them until such time as I feel the need for HANS compatibility. |
My passenger side is a latch link. The instructor uses it for one session and then says "you're good to go". I'd like him in there long but we've been a little thin on instructors lately...
Anyways, it was worth the $80 savings in my mind. However, they are indeed ugly, big, heavy, and inconvenient. That's my passenger's problem though. I was surprised that my last instructor had never seen one, kinda says something about how "rare" they are today. |
Paid $160 cad for a 1 yr old omp fia belt.
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Originally Posted by Track
(Post 824334)
Not sure if its really an advantage, but it could be good for peace of mind. The clubman uses 3" belts all around, while the profi uses 2" sub and waist harnesses.
One thing that's helps make 5 & 6 pts more useful on dual duty cars is to swap the cam lock to the inboard lap belt instead of the crotch. Easier to use for street driving where you don't always want to deal with the crotch belt. I just tuck that belt back through the seat and it stays hidden until we do a track day. OP, Camlocks. No brainer |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 824271)
They look identical to me, but G-Force is FIA certified so you don't have to mess with them for 5 years. What's better about Crow?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 824466)
On the Crow harness the cam-lock lives on a lap belt (not the nut strap, think about genetic legacy injuries), the hasps around the cam lock on the Crow harness are far enough apart that it doesn't pinch fingers (passengers liked to do this in my car for some reason), and Crow will sell you HANS shoulder belts on the cheap...plus the cheap reweb fee.
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Originally Posted by pusha
(Post 824495)
my g-force cam lock lives on a lap belt
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So does mine. And the reweb fee had better be cheap, since you have to do it twice in 4 years to keep your harnesses up to date.
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