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tzdevill 12-28-2012 11:00 AM

What tires are those? I thought I seen somewhere where you said what size they were?

Jeremy

Braineack 12-28-2012 11:26 AM

what does going to ST2 entail?

emilio700 12-28-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by tzdevill (Post 963084)
What tires are those? I thought I seen somewhere where you said what size they were?

Jeremy

245/580R15 Hoosier slick on 15x10


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 963098)
what does going to ST2 entail?

We ran Performance Touring ,"PT" the last few years. In PT we have lbs/hp tiers from 10.0:1 to 16.5:1. Points assessed for every modification, 19 pt cap before you get bumped to the next class.

ST2 is "Super Touring", between the new for 2013 ST3 and existing ST1. We're allowed 8.0 lbs/hp to start with a few correction factors for things like dog boxes, slicks vs DOT tires, FWD, AWD, 4 dr Sedan, etc. No points are assessed for mods so it's pretty wide open. We can run any aero we want but a fastback gets a weight penalty (which I think is a bad rule). We can't modify the tub to much but we can go crazy with the cage to the point of nearly making it a tube frame car. Crusher will get a heavily revised cage structure. Beside gaining much need stiffness ahead of the firewall, it'll be seeing 150+mph a lot.

Da Rules
nasaforums.com • View topic - 2013 ST/SU Rules and Forms are posted--12-24-12

We'll add a Borg EFR 6258 running modest boost, making maybe 260whp in a vast, flat dyno plot. Aero like no one has ever seen on a Miata, and probably DOT tires. We may or may not race on the R80/R100's. We'll have to do some more tire testing and see what our options are.

Scrappy Jack 12-28-2012 12:45 PM

This may be the most exciting Miata news I've ever read. Looking forward to the progress and updates.

hustler 12-28-2012 01:39 PM

I am looking forward to picking up where Crusher left off in PTC in the next few years.

emilio700 12-28-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hustler (Post 963166)
I am looking forward to picking up where Crusher left off in PTC in the next few years.

I still think the NB will be competitive in C. We managed to remove some aero after Ohio and make the car even faster with only 16 pts for T25. The splitter is worth another .7s or so. No doubt in my mind that I could go back to Ohio and run low 1:34's.

So yeah, I'd like to see someone carry the C torch at Miller this year. We'll have cars there in E,D and ST2.

Meanwhile, another pic of the dirtiest orange Miata in lake Forest. Combined T25 grime plus a day of tire testing in the rain. He's a crusty little fellow.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1356722146

Braineack 12-28-2012 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 963131)
This may be the most exciting Miata news I've ever read. Looking forward to the progress and updates.


right?!

ThePass 12-28-2012 03:29 PM

Incredibly excited to see the development of the car into ST2! It's like PTC was some really cool concepts shoehorned into the strict ruleset but ST2 will allow your imagination to run wild. Can't wait to see what comes of it.

With the move to making Crusher an even faster miata, does this pretty much fill the shoes that the OGK once did, or do you still hope to some day bring the OGK back?

Keep it up!
-Ryan

Mobius 12-28-2012 03:48 PM

Nice nice nice.

emilio700 12-28-2012 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by ThePass (Post 963206)
Incredibly excited to see the development of the car into ST2! It's like PTC was some really cool concepts shoehorned into the strict ruleset but ST2 will allow your imagination to run wild. Can't wait to see what comes of it.

With the move to making Crusher an even faster miata, does this pretty much fill the shoes that the OGK once did, or do you still hope to some day bring the OGK back?

Keep it up!
-Ryan

Crusher pretty much fills the role of the Orange Giant Killer. I guess the difference is Crusher was built with a lot more finesse and budget. The OGK was cheap, crude and fast. The OGK name stands for something though so I'll bring it back at some point. In a way though, Crusher will be the giant killer going up against unlimiteds in USTCC, Z06's in ST2, etc.

hustler 12-28-2012 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 963233)
Crusher pretty much fills the role of the Orange Giant Killer. I guess the difference is Crusher was built with a lot more finesse and budget. The OGK was cheap, crude and fast. The OGK name stands for something though so I'll bring it back at some point. In a way though, Crusher will be the giant killer going up against unlimiteds in USTCC, Z06's in ST2, etc.

OGK rules then. That's kind of where I am now. I once had cash but I'm now in abject poverty so I'm going to go faster than everyone in my class and do it with no money.

emilio700 12-28-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 963236)
.. but I'm now in abject poverty so I'm going to go faster than everyone in my class and do it with no money.

Priceless.

Your new sig IMO

doward 12-28-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 963127)
ST2 is ... a Borg EFR 6258 running modest boost, making maybe 260whp in a vast, flat dyno plot. Aero like no one has ever seen on a Miata...

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

I will continue to live vicariously through this car...:jerkit:

v01canic 12-28-2012 06:45 PM

you should come out to Arizona for the Modified Magazine night event and GTA (Global Time Attack)... I know plenty of people that would be more than happy to put you guys up for the night.

emilio700 12-28-2012 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by v01canic (Post 963270)
you should come out to Arizona for the Modified Magazine night event and GTA (Global Time Attack)... I know plenty of people that would be more than happy to put you guys up for the night.

Perhaps. We usually stay in Indio.

ZX-Tex 12-28-2012 11:05 PM

Very cool Emilio. Since I ran a Miata in 2012 NASA TTS, and am I building another one right now for 2013 TT2 (same rules as ST2 except for safety equipment) you know I'll be watching this thread. I'll be going the LS1 route again.

Unlimited aero = unlimited fun with fabrication


6b) Removal of the spare tire floor section of the rear hatch space and either
replacement with a sheet metal cover or placement of a fuel cell is permitted without
an additional Modification Factor
.
Sweeeet...

arildh 12-29-2012 04:43 AM

Will 949 offer 260whp-unlimited-aero-10"Slicks-sickcaged-25hours-approved front hubs/spindles in 2013 ?

emilio700 12-29-2012 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by arildh (Post 963355)
Will 949 offer 260whp-unlimited-aero-10"Slicks-sickcaged-25hours-approved front hubs/spindles in 2013 ?

Probably not. Its a sprint car. No T25

GeneSplicer 12-29-2012 10:13 AM

Will be anxious to see what your doing since ST2 is the direction I'm headed with mine. Sucks on the fast back, really was debating dropping the coin until Andrew clued me in. So, no mods to the OE roof line - I'm assuming that included anything small such as vortex generators too.

So, I'll buy the all the miata shit I can (in honor of abject poverty stricten Hustler), then re-sell it when it doens't work and copy your setup after you destroy all vettes and GT3s in class.

emilio700 12-30-2012 12:37 AM

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Paulo Acoba took this picture at Cars n Coffee this morning. That's Manny, one of our hero fuelers.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1356845853


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