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hustler 03-16-2013 12:46 AM

Crusher-type bumper pics needed.
 
I'm getting a shitty bumper and I want to make a Crusher bumper for my green car but I have no idea how to do it. Please share the pics of your construction.

nitrodann 03-16-2013 04:19 AM

Look in my world record thread.

If there isn't all of the good pics there I'll add the rest here. When I get home.

Dann

ctdrftna 03-16-2013 05:15 AM

there is a whole diy aero thread with pictures of bumpers.

hustler 03-16-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 990277)
there is a whole diy aero thread with pictures of bumpers.

Showing the construction or just the outside?

ctdrftna 03-16-2013 09:32 AM

Does it matter? Be creative !!

Rogue_LE 03-16-2013 10:22 AM

Is it a 'glass bumper?

jpreston 03-16-2013 12:28 PM

Do not use home depot aluminum roof flashing. I'm pretty sure a condom stretched across the front end would hold up better.

ThePass 03-17-2013 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by jpreston (Post 990315)
Do not use home depot aluminum roof flashing. I'm pretty sure a condom stretched across the front end would hold up better.

I'm so trying this...

nitrodann 03-17-2013 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 980116)
Ok here are the aero results., not QUITE finished but a good effort for one day I think.

The car has a garage Vary lip but not anymore.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

Angle grinder.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

Rivnuts (nutserts) and flush allen key hardware, 10.9 tensile.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

Using a pair of factory M6 threads and another 2 rivnuts in the subframe.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

Rough cut 1/2" ply.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

I weight 100kg and you can stand on the mofo, and even bounce on it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162

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The front most bracket, rivnuts in the body and rivnuts in this bracket.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361174162
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Steel flatbar to reinforce the bottom of the PVC front bar. The black plastic just in front of the tyre was removed after this shot.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

Cutting out the wood for a rough starting shape, after the rear wing has been given proper sized endplates, the front splitter will be cut down until the front/rear downforce is similar.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594
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Front bar PVC sheet clamped on test fitting, ready for nuts bolts and white sikaflex.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

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The wing mount, this MAY stay permanent depending how well it works, the boot has been braced with 3mm steel plate.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

Top bolts in and cutting the excess.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

The removed the protective layer to reveal nice shiny white PVC front bar.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

Here it is almost done, I drove it like this.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

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Check the phone, yeh its pretty low. Should be efficient.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

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It needs the flat bar bonded and bolted to the bottom and a pair of braces for the widest points of the splitter.

I intend to take a sawzall to the track and cut the splitter down until front/rear downforce bias is neutral.

Its very low, check the picture with the phone on the ground to show its height, this is a big screen LG phone. Its about 80mm.

The owner will make cardboard templates for the radiator/IC ducting and I will make it and fit it (more rivnuts).

The intake opening was just rough cut so it could be driven. I threw in some extra fuel to get it driveable and check everything worked right.

Its is the most responsive car Ive ever driven, its great, Im super super happy with it. On 10 PSI with 17x9 slicks It spins 3rd no hastles at all. They were cold though.

Its telepathic in boost reposnse and spins 2nd from 2500rpm so low/mid torque is great.

Dyno by the weekend.

Dann

And it looks like this done.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361682130

Dann

Handy Man 03-17-2013 08:43 PM

Use rivet washers where you rivet the ABS to the bumper. If not they will pull out.

I used only the two front existing mount points on the subframe, not the additional ones in the rear... and then I used turnbuckles in front instead of the framework in front of the intercooler. This allows the splitter to pivot upwards and just bend the ABS when it bottoms out... it has saved the whole assembly many times.

I also used two more turnbuckles, one in front of each tire to support the corners of the splitter.

Ohh, and keep both the air damn and the splitter as close to the wheels as possible without rubbing at full droop. The more coverage the better for aero.

hustler 03-17-2013 10:13 PM

I'm not making a splitter so I'm not sure how to do the bottom part. At this point, I'm not sure I'm making anything, but giving it consideration.

ThePass 03-18-2013 01:31 AM

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I'll see your classic "I stand on my splitter to test its strength" and raise you a "Put all three of my roommates on my splitter at once"

Snapped this pic today. New splitter/splitter frame and EP style bumper. 480 lbs on the front lip:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1363584687

Handy Man 03-18-2013 08:17 AM

Haha, nice!

Hustler. Even if you don't want a splitter, I'd build an undertray out of some thin plywood. It will support the EP style nose and improve aero.

If you REALLY don't want an undertray, you could just run a couple pieces of angle iron to the bottom front of the ABS to support it. You'd also probably want to run some sort of aluminum support (like a bent flat bar) all the way around the bottom lip of the ABS, because its pretty flimsy

nitrodann 03-18-2013 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Handy Man (Post 990697)
You'd also probably want to run some sort of aluminum support (like a bent flat bar) all the way around the bottom lip of the ABS, because its pretty flimsy


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1361175594

Like in above photos.

In the photo it looks like I weigh more than all 3 together pass haha.

Good job whats it made of? Mines just scrap ply with the grain running across the car, the grain is the weakpoint at this stage.

Dann

Dann

Double O 86 03-18-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hustler (Post 990611)
At this point, I'm not sure I'm making anything, but giving it consideration.

This should inspire you:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1363616593

ThePass 03-19-2013 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 990708)
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In the photo it looks like I weigh more than all 3 together pass haha.

Good job whats it made of? Mines just scrap ply with the grain running across the car, the grain is the weakpoint at this stage.

Dann

The splitter template on the car in that picture is just the commonly used birch plywood. I hope you don't weigh that much 480 lbs is 220+ kg ;) I would have put more people on it if I could have. If someone had been walking by my house when I was taking the picture, I wold have recruited them as well, I just ran out of people.

-Ryan

hustler 03-19-2013 08:29 AM

"thumbs-up" = poz

jacob300zx 03-23-2013 12:24 AM

I can help you build one of these in Houston one weekend.

hustler 03-23-2013 09:44 AM

Thanks but the car can't go to Houston. :'(

ThePass 03-26-2013 03:29 AM

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"E Prepared" style bumper complete.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1364282954


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