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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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The wing looks fine to me?

It's the uprights that failed.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Yup, but it's a risk when you're buying a "cheap" product. You might not pay much to get it, but there could be other issues with it. That owner had new uprights put on, added some steel bar stock to strengthen and had no more issues. But it took time and effort to get to that point. And nearly spun his car when it failed. Luckily it was at an autox on a wide open runway, but if it had happened at the track...

Everything's a trade off, and the OP needs to decide whats more important to him. Something that will work right out of the box but has a higher initial cost, or a lower initial cost where he runs the risk of having to do additional work to get things to work properly.

EDIT: Just saw you were the OP and you can make your own uprights. The driver of that car said he would start to notice the effects around 75kph, so the ebay wing did it's job just fine until the related parts let it down.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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i didn't mess around with mine. it's nice having connections!

thick alum., great welding

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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TALL spoilers with weak stanchion like the bent one should be properly braced.

most bracing consists of aircraft grade tension wires...

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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I've always wondered whether drift cars really benefit at all from wings... and if they do, if it might be beneficial to design a wing which has endplates that are angled outwards at ~25* - so that when they are sliding sideways at a 20-40* angle, the outer rear corner that is loaded, doesn't have an endplate that is hitting the air like an air brake, instead it's aligned with the airflow.

spoolin - mounts look beffy. Just make sure the mount between the strut and the wing itself is likewise.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Dude I have always wondered what was up with wings on drift cars...then I realized its all about looking cool like a race car.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Having crewed for a drift team and having to take off the wing on a high speed course, 100mph+ entry speeds, because the driver complained of too much rear grip and we were going to excessive of tires pressures to compensate, I can say yes they serve a purpose.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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They do serve a purpose. Setting up a drift car is not just making it as loose as you can in the rear. Just like us on the track, they tune front and rear grip to what they like which makes it easier to hold it sideways.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Contrary to popular belief a loose car doesn't make for a good drift car. A properly set drift car is set-up to push. This makes a car that is much more stable in a drift and requires more "smoke" to keep sideways. Removal of the rear sway bar is not an uncommon practice.
Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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I know a lot of FC RX7 guys remove the F and R bars too.
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sokool
Having crewed for a drift team and having to take off the wing on a high speed course, 100mph+ entry speeds, because the driver complained of too much rear grip and we were going to excessive of tires pressures to compensate, I can say yes they serve a purpose.
What you mean is, yes - they create downforce. But you're actually saying that they don't serve a purpose on a drift car.

At low speeds - when the wing is doing very little, the wing was on the car, and at higher speeds - when the wing actually did something, you had to take it off. Sounds like it's there for show. Just saying.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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^ Yup
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Nope. They do serve a purpose in drifting. Although they are generally similar setup to a road race car, they do need to be tuned properly.

I suspect that the too much rear grip comment was because the car was too low on power for the entry speeds that they were commiting to.
Old Jun 15, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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At least someone gets it... ^

The car just didn't have the umph to turn 275 race rubber in 4th gear at 100mph.

I am by no means a drifter or claim to be one. I just happen to be good friends with lots of good ones... LOL
Old Jun 26, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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^^ it would make sense that the wing would be different at different speeds. Too fast and you get too much grip. You might think of a way to adjust the angle. Chuck
Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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This is the best way to spend money on a wing:
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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That's the new Supermiata FRP wing? I like the wing but the huge end plates are so much uglier than the standard ones. Do they make a huge difference?
Old Jul 3, 2011 | 01:44 AM
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^^ yes.
Old Jul 3, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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form < function
Old Oct 19, 2011 | 01:27 AM
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just a thought
wouldnt the supermiata wing benefit from having a gurney flap?

im no aerodynamicist(?) but its my understanding that it would help create more downforce if alll designed correctly.

if it would help why dont they have it?

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