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doward 03-21-2018 04:51 PM

Front Subframe Reinforcement.
 
Front subframe tearing has been getting more and more common as a fatigue failure. We've now started seeing cars on 100TW tires and run of the mill HPDE cars with enough time on them start to tear subframes.

Mazda Motorsports recently introduced a weld-on gusset plate to reinforce the front subframe on 90-05 Miatas.


Maxxis Supermiata Cup has approved it as safety modification in both S1 and S2.
Both SCCA and NASA have approved the mod as a safety modification in Spec Miata
NASA has also approved it as a zero point safety mod in PT and ST.

We now carry them here: https://supermiata.com/mazda-motorsp...me-gusset.aspx




https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0cbafe9820.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6446425f6d.jpgVegas SPM S1
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2527dd83b5.jpgMarcus Luttrell's TTE NB1
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...47b962b4a7.jpgSky Chan' SPM S2 NA8

hraday93 03-21-2018 08:06 PM

Great stuff. Can't order today but bookmarked for my checklist before she hits the road.

Ted75zcar 03-21-2018 08:24 PM

Is it $26 for a pair, or per piece?

18psi 03-21-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Ted75zcar (Post 1473047)
Is it $26 for a pair, or per piece?

read ;)

Detailed Description
Price is for a pair; one left, one right. Enough for one subframe.

Ted75zcar 03-21-2018 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1473048)
read ;)

derp, the mobile version is lacking that info. I should have known to go full, as I have experienced this before.

thanks

flier129 03-22-2018 09:51 AM

I am Marcus Luttrell and I approve this message. :party:

Der_Idiot 03-22-2018 01:58 PM

Talk about a shitty way to end a track session. Nice to know about this in advance, looks like I'll be adding these in this year.

k24madness 03-22-2018 09:16 PM

Another scary Miata failure point. I have been checking mine after each event. Wonder if it’s the curb hoppers or just plain metal fatigue. Whatever the case mine are just waiting to be installed.

Are people pulling the lower CA’s before welding? It seems like a good way to cook my spherical bearings. I’ll time it before a fresh setup.

Leafy 03-24-2018 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by k24madness (Post 1473228)
Another scary Miata failure point. I have been checking mine after each event. Wonder if it’s the curb hoppers or just plain metal fatigue. Whatever the case mine are just waiting to be installed.

Are people pulling the lower CA’s before welding? It seems like a good way to cook my spherical bearings. I’ll time it before a fresh setup.

That area gets put in tension when you brake.

thumpetto007 03-24-2018 10:09 PM

Anyone have tips for rustproofing the area after welding for a street car?

Leafy 03-24-2018 10:11 PM

Weld prep the original paint off, paint that area with copper weld through primer, paint the whole brace or at least the inside with weld through primer. Then prime and paint as much as you can.

thumpetto007 03-24-2018 10:40 PM

This stuff?


And this is on a subframe with the control arms removed? I'm assuming the welding would be far to hot for the lca bushings?
Thanks

Leafy 03-24-2018 10:45 PM

Thats the stuff. I use it whenever I'm welding steel where I wont be able to paint later, like rocker rot repair. I'd certainly take the whole corner of the suspension out to have room to move. And I'd monitor the temperature of the subframe near the steering rack.

jpreston 03-25-2018 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1473584)
Weld prep the original paint off, paint that area with copper weld through primer, paint the whole brace or at least the inside with weld through primer. Then prime and paint as much as you can.

I just installed my reinforcement plates today and did this exact process. NAPA also sells a weld-thru primer in store, which is what I used.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NHQ82781

FatKao 03-25-2018 08:15 PM

Zinc rich? I thought that is what gave you metal flu.

Leafy 03-25-2018 08:18 PM

It is, you want the copper one. Zinc is mig and extra well ventilated only

k24madness 03-25-2018 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1473583)
Anyone have tips for rustproofing the area after welding for a street car?

Move back to California!

k24madness 03-25-2018 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1473581)
That area gets put in tension when you brake.

Must be more to it than that. The spec Miata guys don’t really brake hard. Whatever the case mine are going in ASAP!


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