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Old 03-21-2018, 04:51 PM
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Default Front Subframe Reinforcement.

Front subframe tearing has been getting more and more common as a fatigue failure. We've now started seeing cars on 100TW tires and run of the mill HPDE cars with enough time on them start to tear subframes.

Mazda Motorsports recently introduced a weld-on gusset plate to reinforce the front subframe on 90-05 Miatas.


Maxxis Supermiata Cup has approved it as safety modification in both S1 and S2.
Both SCCA and NASA have approved the mod as a safety modification in Spec Miata
NASA has also approved it as a zero point safety mod in PT and ST.

We now carry them here: https://supermiata.com/mazda-motorsp...me-gusset.aspx





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Great stuff. Can't order today but bookmarked for my checklist before she hits the road.
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Is it $26 for a pair, or per piece?
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Originally Posted by Ted75zcar
Is it $26 for a pair, or per piece?
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Price is for a pair; one left, one right. Enough for one subframe.
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derp, the mobile version is lacking that info. I should have known to go full, as I have experienced this before.

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Talk about a shitty way to end a track session. Nice to know about this in advance, looks like I'll be adding these in this year.
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Another scary Miata failure point. I have been checking mine after each event. Wonder if it’s the curb hoppers or just plain metal fatigue. Whatever the case mine are just waiting to be installed.

Are people pulling the lower CA’s before welding? It seems like a good way to cook my spherical bearings. I’ll time it before a fresh setup.
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Originally Posted by k24madness
Another scary Miata failure point. I have been checking mine after each event. Wonder if it’s the curb hoppers or just plain metal fatigue. Whatever the case mine are just waiting to be installed.

Are people pulling the lower CA’s before welding? It seems like a good way to cook my spherical bearings. I’ll time it before a fresh setup.
That area gets put in tension when you brake.
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Anyone have tips for rustproofing the area after welding for a street car?
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Weld prep the original paint off, paint that area with copper weld through primer, paint the whole brace or at least the inside with weld through primer. Then prime and paint as much as you can.
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This stuff?

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And this is on a subframe with the control arms removed? I'm assuming the welding would be far to hot for the lca bushings?
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Thats the stuff. I use it whenever I'm welding steel where I wont be able to paint later, like rocker rot repair. I'd certainly take the whole corner of the suspension out to have room to move. And I'd monitor the temperature of the subframe near the steering rack.
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Weld prep the original paint off, paint that area with copper weld through primer, paint the whole brace or at least the inside with weld through primer. Then prime and paint as much as you can.
I just installed my reinforcement plates today and did this exact process. NAPA also sells a weld-thru primer in store, which is what I used.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NHQ82781
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Zinc rich? I thought that is what gave you metal flu.
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It is, you want the copper one. Zinc is mig and extra well ventilated only
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
Anyone have tips for rustproofing the area after welding for a street car?
Move back to California!
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Originally Posted by Leafy
That area gets put in tension when you brake.
Must be more to it than that. The spec Miata guys don’t really brake hard. Whatever the case mine are going in ASAP!
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