Hey Ben,
I recently picked up a set of G Force 6 points at OG Racing. http://ogracing.com/catalog/2-Car/32...es/135-G-Force

OG is good people, I can vouch for them (not that any of you know me anyway :P )

Octupus Gardens. Good people.

Every time I use the G-Force belts in the rental I have to adjust my family jewels to prevent pinching. I've never felt the need to make the adjustment with the Schroth ProfiII6-H belts in the black car. The nut straps are designed to sit against your inner thighs, whereas all the other t/v-style belts just make a concerted effort to reverse puberty.

I've only used the G-Force belts in the Mid-Ohio school cars, but I think they are uncomfortable. If I do a harness in the Miata, it will be something else, for sure.

I'm gonna have to agree.
These G-Force 6-points are the only belts I have experience with, but the sub belts are pretty uncomfortable.

I just thought that came with the territory... I guess I'll need to check out different belts when mine expire in 2016. :laugh:

Any opinion on the Schroth Clubman vs the G Force? Better jewel comfort? The Profii looks awesome, but I can't do $350 on it right now.

Clubman is still better than G-force, and they're not too hateful on price. Somewhere around $170-180 right? I had one in my trackcar before I sold it. Never had a problem with Jim Dangle uncomfortability.

SafeRacer.com had the G Force in stock at $155, free FedEx, and 10% SCCA discount. Couldn't beat that!

i win!

so THAT'S what those were. I just put a set of Schroth Clubmans back in a customer's car, and wondered why the adjusters looked nearly identical to the G-Force adjusters.

The weave is close/the same, too. The camlock is a lot nicer, though.

Eh? The Clubman I had was almost identical to my Profi III.

The adjusters on my Profi II-6 are way, way nicer than the ones in the photo of the Clubmans.

Profi II:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1316583278

Clubman:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1316583278

I see what you're talking about. Looks like the Profi has 2" lapbelts as opposed to the 3" lapbelts for the Clubman too. Its been awhile since I've had my Profi, and I think they changed the design a bit since then (the substrap is very different from what I had; looks like a great design currently though). The design of the shoulder adjusters looks close to what I had, so I must have been remembering them wrong. Still, I stand by my statement of Clubman > G-Force, regardless of similarity in hardware appearance.

Just a minor comment, adjusters that you pull towards the lock is much easier to live with than adjusters that are pulled in the other direction.
I always struggle with tightening the side belts properly, not to mention the crotch ones.

It's soon time for a new belt anyway and then I'm happy to pay a premium to get it "right" (six years on the one I have now).

pull-up is a must in a miata.

Pull downs become pull ups when you pull it up from the outside of the seat. Works great.

I have two clubman harnesses. The difference is they use steel hardware which is cheaper. And its only certified for 2 years, instead of 5.

Its weird that you don't have the sub hole in the seat. Not sure how to deal with that, but its not a bad idea to just skip on them for the time being. Just make sure not to use the harness on the street. Or maybe you can run it over the front, but that seems pretty useless too... :dunno:

The seat was cheap. I think I paid $200 for the pair with corbeau sliders and brackets. Over the winter, it will get a new seat and the cage finished. I have no plans to drive the car on the street or make it street legal.

sorry, I read the thread last night and forgot that its not a street car. haha, I would just be hesitant to drill a set of sub holes now and then do it again in 2 months.