http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...G-fuvml9eBSRCw

I'm hoping for something cheap and long lasting, though I doubt it will out-do the NT-01.

 

Those look good. I hope they are at a low price point.

I have been highly disappointed with my Maxxis mountain bike tires. First the front one and now the back one have both done this. And I have a friend who's Maxxis tire did the same thing on a hut to hut trip from Colorado to Moab. Hopefully their automotive tires will have better quality.

 

I know their razor is very popular in the atv crowd, I had two on mine and they were awesome.

 

Always had good luck with them on my karts

 

Out do the NT-01 in what. Out right maximum grip? Longevity? Grip vs. Longevity vs. Price?

This is the first I've heard of this tire.

 

I wish Federal would get more serious about the 595 RS-R in the U.S. :(

 

Any of the above, at a lower price. I doubt anything will shake the NT-01 from it's throne, but I don't know much about tire chemistry and how it evolves from year to year.

 

Everything that I've ever had contact with that was made by Maxxis sucked most hard. They're a Chinese scooter tire company that has tried to branch out. Expect results as such.

 

What throne do you speak of? The best combination of dry grip, longevity, and cost for a guy doing track days?

The Hoosier R6, BFG R1 and the Goodyear Eagle RS all have better dry grip (I might even say much better) but of course you pay for it. I'm not sure about BFG R1s on a miata but we get very good longevity out of the BFGs we use. I would be willing to bet the BFG R1 could give the NT-01 a run for it's money even for a track day guy. You would get better dry grip, almost as good of longevity at a higher price. Unfortunately BFG doesn't make a 225/45/15. I know they've looked into, but haven't heard if it will go to mass production or not.

If I were running a turbo miata at track days I would be using Continental Grand AM take offs. You can get them for half the price of new NT-01s, and they should last just as long (they are an endurance compound) with as good of grip. They're the right size (225/45/15) and it looks like RSR is going to continue running Minis in Grand AM so there should be a decent supply of them going forward.

My two cents

 

There is no BFG that fits our 9" wheels, hence why the NT-01 is The Lord. The only other tires I could run are C71s, R6, or GAC. Unfortunately, NASA adjusted some point rules and I am maxed in points in TTB at 205whp.

 

This sounds like a really good option. Thanks for the heads up.

 

R6 is maybe .2-.4 faster for about 8 laps. Then they fall off and are slower. Net life less than half of NT01

R1 about 1 sec faster for about 20 minutes. Then they fall off and are about the same until they die, which happens in about 30% the time of an NT01

Eagle RS - more than 1 sec faster, great heat cycle life but still as less than 50% as long as NT01's. 50% more expensive

If the competition is who can run all day Saturday and Sunday on one set and have the fastest time last session Sunday, NT01's will won every other tire on the market.

I've done back to back with R6's, R1's and NT01's but not RS's. Not guesses or estimates but personal experience.

FWIW, we just flat destroyed the field at T25 on our NT01's wit the combination of speed and tire life. Almost no one ran them. AMG wo chased us the whole time, would go through 3 RF tires for our one. The next car back was the Hooverspeed Miata on R6's. We were 2s faster with the same power and weight and change tires half as often.

In short there is a very real reason why the NT01 has become the defacto standard for HPDE.

 

If the Nitto is so much better, which I believe you one, why does everyone pretend that R6s are so much better?

 

Taiwan. They have done well in karts and rock crawling. They have not done well in the US passenger car market. I don't expect that to change, even if they had an amazing tire, they don't have a very good distribution system.

 

Hoosier makes great qualifying tires.

 

Most HPDE drivers and club racers never really learn how to thoroughly develop and tune a car. Many use settings from someone else, based on hearsay, superstition and what somebody used successfully in a car nothing like theirs. R6's are fast right out of the box then they fade. Most drivers will recognize the grip of stickers but not recognize tires falling off. Hoosiers have a sort of mystique as magic tires. I think most people don't really know how much difference there is between sticker A6 and R6's.

I have personally witnessed drivers test NT01's, go faster then switch back to R6's for the contingency money.

Short version: a lot of people are mistaken.

 

A6's are the best bet for sprint races too. They're no faster than anything else by the 30 minute mark but by then you already have a fat gap because they were 2 sec a lap faster for the first few laps and you ran away.

The cool thing is you don't need to scuff A6's. Mount them up. One slow lap through the pits to get rid of the mold release then line up for qual.

 

the guy that was in charge of NT01 US distribution ~5 years back (when NT01 became popular) is the person in charge of Maxxis RC-1.

RC-1 has been tested numerously in SOCAL HPDE scene. it is a pretty good tire from what I've heard, from people I trust. another r-comp choice is always a good thing imo.

 

Thanks for the help, California bros.

 

And in some 15s... I was Impressed with how your Federals handled on your car


This is exactly what I use from RSR, but to be 'competetive' in TT (if Nasa ever comes to Barber) I'll have to go with Hoosiers A6s, maybe win some other Hoosiers? - doubtful

And that being said - it's proably what I would do too... (previous retard statement withdrawn)