FWIW, only the R3 offers protection without harnesses. The Rage Pro requires them. I own a Rage Pro, too.

robert

Anyone try one of these, looks good. I'm pretty sure they are available to the public now.

I ended up buying the Leatt. One track day, and I don't know it's there. I also have a plate on my collar bone, so the shape of it doesn't bother me at all. I like it.
I did change my harness to a HANS friendly 2" set up. Much easier to put the belts on.

Couple questions for you...

Does your helmet hit the back of the yoke? It looks really close in some pictures is seen.

Do the side straps limit your head movement much? Do you think they would help in a side crash without a containment seat?

Does it bother your neck since it's much thicker in that area than a Hans?

Thanks.

No, that's what I liked about it.

not that I noticed, now maybe if I was trying to back up a trailer! As for the side impact, I feel that my opinion is unqualified.

Like I said earlier, I don't even feel it is there. Now, I have only worn it for a maximum of about 30 minutes belted in at a time.
All I can say is try and find a shop that will let you try on many different types, and see what you like. Or ask at the track to see if a driver will let you test fit one.

The MRX looks like a really decent unit, same price range too.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1400299117

The mrx showed up over the weekend. I like it except it doesn't seem to work too well with 3" belts due to the way the inside of the collar is formed. I would say 2" shoulder belts are almost a requirement for this model. I'm going to see if I can order the 2"/3" shoulder belts separately. If not, I may return it for the hans sport ii.

To answer my earlier question the side straps do seem to limit motion laterally. How that translates in a crash I don't know.

Fyi, I bought mine from a place called bto motorsports. There was some deal going on which brought the price to $499 w/ free shipping. Seems like a small operation but it shipped quick.

The MRX went back. I was able to order the 2/3" shoulder belts (expensive for nylon webbing) and still didn't like the way everything sat with my setup. It's also made in China, although Hans maybe too, I don't know. Too bad as there were some aspects I really liked about it. Hans sport ii will be the final answer for me.


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From what we have observed, Hans has more support in the aftermarket. When seat manufacturers make adjustments, they use a Hans device on the dummys. Everything is built around the HANS. The hans has the best research and development by far. With the new sliding tethers that hans offers, you can get unaffected range of movement. Watch tyler look out of both windows with no binding.


We hear mixed reviews about the nex gen. I personally like the way it looks, and i think the performance is good. but as I walk around the paddocks i hear that it's uncomfortable.

We have been asking the manufacturers for test data involving the R3 and 3 point safety belts. We have yet to get any data after 6 years of waiting and asking. Despite manufacturers claims our official stand is "No testing has been done and it is not recommended that they be used with 3 point belts".

Thankfully, the adaptations for the HANS does not make other solutions less safe, and the increased focus on harness installation (as dictated to make HANS work) helps the other solutions as well.

This is correct. After the Death of Dale Earnhardt Sr. The importance of head and neck restraints have been brought to the forefront. Hans was in the right place at the right time when it did come to light. that doesn't discredit other SFI rated Head and neck restraints on the market

Generally the price difference between Hans and some others is roughly $50. That seems like a small price to pay for getting an item that's easily serviced at any track store, and is being constantly updated. An original Hans sport is still very capable, and hans has release updates for it since its original launch. That is something that other Head and neck restraint companies have not done.

Very interesting. Emailed Simpson a while back and never got any sort of response at all.

robert