Dustin1824

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I also have no ***. I'm 5'10" and fit right into the Sparco Rev which is a downsized Evo. I'm sure someone's going to quote me but here it is anyways: I'd rather have a slightly sore *** and happy nuts. Haha sounds bad but it's true.

I'm going to try and fix my seat layback which should help comfort without the cushion. I need another seat mount because right now there is no adjustment between no layback and ALLOFIT.

ryansmoneypit

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Like I said, I cut my foam to allow maximum spread on the crotch belts.

hornetball

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Consider Safecraft.

Test sit all the belts you're considering before purchase if possible.

ryansmoneypit

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I will look at them, but the Schroth hybrid 2 H sounds really good. A lot of what schroth does, is good textile practice IMO.

I would love to test them all, but I live in rural Virginia. I would spend more money in travel than just buying a few sets. I guess I could go to a track day at VIR. ..a possibility, still a gamble finding a similar set up with different belts. Not off the table though.

ryansmoneypit

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Safecraft- giant metal T bar. No way. Very little product description and more expensive than Schroth.

Dustin1824

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They aren't more expensive than the Schroth Enduros, which is their closest match. The adjusters on the Safecraft harnesses are very smooth and it's even easier to get the belts tight than the Schroth belts.

The downside for the Safecrafts is the standard sub belts vs. the comfy Schroth and the fact that the sub belts aren't easily adjustable like the Schroths.

Not saying the Safecrafts are the best, but I was impressed by Hornetball's belts when I went for a ride. They were silky smooth.

ryansmoneypit

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Hmm. Maybe I need to look again. The website wasn't super user friendly. Not for a dummy anyway.

joyrider

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Racequip with 2/3 feels a lot better then G Force, lot lighter, stronger and FIA cert.

What I love form mine is how good the cam lock work when you need to quickly get out.. think escape test

http://www.racequip.com/seatbeltshar...rnesssets.html (bottom of the page)

ryansmoneypit

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Identical to G Force in almost every way, except for the 2/3 shoulder, and alloy adjusters
No mention of belt material. Assumes nylon when not specified. Because nylon is most popular. Because the industry has used nylon for so long. Polyester has absolute advantages.
Schroth is still the clear leader imo.

ryansmoneypit

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Schroth goes out of their way, to provide us with the detailed studies and reasons for why they make their products the way that they do. Nobody else does that, from my simple searching. They do a great job of explaining "why we did this". It really looks like a lot of the other manufacturers could very well be made in the same plant, just getting different labels stitched on.

Savington

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It's been a while since I wore a Safecraft harness, but IIRC the substrap was like a big diaper that softly squished my nuts, vs. the G-Force which firmly squished my nuts. The Schroth belts I run in all my cars now don't squish my nuts at all.

ryansmoneypit

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I like my nuts, not squished.

jpreston

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Same. The Schroth subs are slightly uncomfortable when wearing jeans, but I totally forget about them while wearing a suit. I actually prefer a V-style 6-point sub-strap over a non-Schroth 6-point T-bar.

Blackbird

Schroth 6P Hybrid has no T bar and is very comfortable.
It also comes in an 8 point version (double shoulders) which is great though cost is not for the faint of heart.

ryansmoneypit

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Glad to hear. The profi 2 gets rave reviews, but not a lot of reviews on the hybrid. It sounds more comfortable, but with the added assembly difficulty. Do you ever fine it annoying or difficult to get the loops o er the latch assy.?

AndrewG

I will bump this thread from death, so do not kill me please. I believe this thread is quite useful for people who have not tried or are thinking about 6 points so.

I would like to ask you guys using Schroth hybrid 2 or any other real FIA harness for your opinion and experience.

I have Recaro SPG seat with OMP 804 SUPERLEGGERA 6 POINT ULTRALIGHT harness and the thing I am worried about is the way that lap belt buckle hits the hole opening in the seat.
I do not have the photo now, but I can try to make one tomorrow photos bellow. The issue is although that, the buckle hitting the trim of the opening. I am all straped nicely to the seat, but if I would be more slim I could not tight it enough. My concern is that, in case of crash, this buckle could damage the seat and weaken it. How does the Schroth come around this ? is the lap belt buckle closer to eyebolts? I could also imagine that buckles could be behind the hole opening "inside" the seat but in that case I can imagine that the buckle would not make wearing those harness much comfortable. Friend of mine got harness from corbeau and he contacted them because he was not able to strap him inside the harness at all because of this. They offered him free shortening of the harness, so the buckle is now directly next to the eyebolt. I have NA chassis car and using stock seatbelt hole on the B pillar and the hole that is standardly hiden under the carpet on the other side, so both eyebolts are in same location. harness is also very close to 45deg as required by FIA, but it is not really possible to get to real 45degress with miata. I am 6`2" btw, and my seat is mounted directly to the floor pan, with rear OEM mounting plates removed.

If you have some pictures of Schroth harness installed, or tips how to get around this phenomenom let me know.

moocow

Here's what mine looks like. After seeing yours, I'm glad I took the recommendations to get the Schroth harness. I still need to adjust the slack on the side harnesses so that the end of the tightening pull strap is inside the seat.