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Old 06-06-2010, 01:58 PM   #1
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There is a Jackson racing m45 supercharger system for sale right now in the Forum that I am really thinking of picking up. My question is how reliable will this system be on the track. What upgrades will I need to safely track my car at 170-200 whp. This setup already comes with a Air to Air intercooler so that should help alot. Thanks guys
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Anybody :( I also emailed gray over at trackdog racing. If I buy this I am planing on doing it tomorrow so I need all the info I can get
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No one is answering because it's very easy information to find.

Here, I'll help you.

1) buy supercharger
2) buy MS1 (skip the band aide ****)
3) buy injectors
4) buy full exhaust
5) Install everything
6) tune.
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Install MS1 first. Figure that stuff out. Then when your car is ready for the SC do it. I didn't see a wideband in that list. That is a must. Then after you drive around with an SC, figure out you wanted that glowing red thing on your exhaust manifold.

Edit, buy the damn thing if it is such a great deal.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:24 AM   #5
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1) buy supercharger
2) buy MS1 (skip the band aide ****) I have a 02 with vvt so I am going hydra with a wideband
3) buy injectors This was on my list as well but I might just go with a fuel pump
4) buy full exhaust If I want more then 160whp I am going to need it
5) Install everything
6) tune. Of course
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:30 AM   #6
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To be honest I wanted to know if I was going to need a better clutch at my power level. Also if a bigger radiator was needed and if I should do the M tune reroute I saw it needs a different head gasket on my year . I found a good amount of info but a lot of the track guys are running the 949racing setup or the bigger m62 supercharger. So if anybody has seen or ran a jackson racing m45 on the track your input would be great. Thanks
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Old 06-07-2010, 04:32 AM   #7
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At 200whp I wouldn't worry about a rad or re-route until the car is running. If you street it only, you can wait. If you're going to go off and beat the **** out of it on the track the minute it's off the dyno then do said mods.

I'm a fan of over preparing so I say do the clutch first.
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At 200whp I wouldn't worry about a rad or re-route until the car is running. If you street it only, you can wait. If you're going to go off and beat the **** out of it on the track the minute it's off the dyno then do said mods.

I'm a fan of over preparing so I say do the clutch first.
So pretty much the same stuff I would need if I want turbo. I am planing on the FM happy meal for the clutch/flywheel. Then a PWR radiator and use the stock fans I guess.
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Basically, yes.

Why do you want an M45? It's very limited in power, especially on a 1.8. IMO, take a few extra months to save the cash and go with a Kraftwerks Rotrex from Emilio if you really want to go super.

I've been doing a ton of reading on those and my new engine build is going to be coupled with one.
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To be honest a lot of my plans changed once I started tracking and auto xing the car. I don't feel the need for big power any more so I started to scale back hell I was thinking of just staying NA. BUT I see this guy selling a supercharger setup that should cost about 4k for 1700 shipped lol so its hard to pass that up. I also just got off the phone with Gary from trackdog and he told me I wont need a hydra/stand alone just to run the power card pro that will save me another 1500. I don't know man I priced out a v band turbo track setup I was looking at 8k if not more.
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How many KMS on the kit? $1700 is alright for a price if it's low kms.

In all honesty man... stay away from "p-p-p-powercard!". Just get a stand alone. Is MS available for you car year? Don't know much about NB's. But if it is, get a MS. Hydra is overkill for a 200whp supercharger setup.

If you were already expecting to pay $1700+$1500 for a hydra+M45, just go buy the starter Rotrex kit. It's around that price with it's own fuel delivery system. It's not all about big power with those anyways, although you can make big power if you want. They mimic an NA car in power delivery. You should give 949Racing a call before you make your decision. And go read the big Rotrex thread on M.Net.
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10k Miles on the kit I was told. I feel you on the stand alone I am looking into this power card right now. Even the 949racing kit comes with a piggyback card so I guess its the norm with a supercharger setup. yeah I might give 949 a ring I hear nothing but good things on there setup plus I bet its not loud as **** haha
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That's one thing I like. It's silent. And you can run the thing with the restrictor at first and then when (and I say when, because it will happen) you get the HP bug, you don't need to sell your tiny M45 and buy something new. Just remove the restrictor, add injectors, intercooler and go to town.

You can either buy the starter kit with the fuel management card or a DIY kit and run your own ECM and IC. It's a bit cheaper as well.
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You can get over 180whp from the m45 200 tops so that should be fine. But you are right you are kinda capped
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You can get over 180whp from the m45 200 tops so that should be fine. But you are right you are kinda capped
more like ~160 unless you port and rebuilt the hell out of the 45

i already done everything your talking about and more.

buy mp62 tdr kit, buy Adaptronic (hydra sucks), get a spec 2.0 or fm lvl 1 clutch, get a better radiator.

take to the dyno and find out your running ~200rwhp (on powercards) and smile
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more like ~160 unless you port and rebuilt the hell out of the 45

i already done everything your talking about and more.

buy mp62 tdr kit, buy Adaptronic (hydra sucks), get a spec 2.0 or fm lvl 1 clutch, get a better radiator.

take to the dyno and find out your running ~200rwhp (on powercards) and smile
HMMM well I like the sound of all that. I did some reading on the adaptronic and it looks just as good as the hydra. It also tunes VVT so. Thanks for your input man
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You can get over 180whp from the m45 200 tops

Yeah, you'd better get Gary back on the phone, he'll set you straight.
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You can get over 180whp from the m45 200 tops so that should be fine. But you are right you are kinda capped
where did you see one over 180 rwhp? most people even with the boost upgrades don't see more than 165rwhp
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Yeah, you'd better get Gary back on the phone, he'll set you straight.
I was getting my info from a dyno plot on his site. He did tell me the vvt would make 15HP less so that kind of sucks. I would want at least 160
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Yeah, you'd better get Gary back on the phone, he'll set you straight.
Well it depends what dyno you use for the numbers. My 96 jrsc fyi

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