Alignment numbers for turbod miatas
Just wondering if any of you changed your alignment settings once you had more power in the car. I'm running 2.3/2.0 camber front to rear, 4 degrees of caster, zero toe up front and 1/16" in in the rear. My suspension setup is in my sig. With the 15x9 6ULs and the 225/45/15 RS2 I installed this week the car is go-kart sensetive now, follows every groove in the road and turns really quickly. It is very neutral in turns without but without any unpredictable oversteer, which I love. Still, I'm wondering if this will be too twitchy when I have ~250hp especially at 80mph+. So what specs are you guys using and how do you like it?
P.S. I'm glad there's finally a section for this stuff.
P.S. I'm glad there's finally a section for this stuff.
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From: Fake Virginia
You'll definitely get more throttle-input oversteer all things being equal, but it's hard to say how your particular setup will react to more power.
do it, drive it, change as needed.
I could stand a little bit extra negative camber in the rear for the extra power.
but remember, the tradeoff for lots of negative camber is decreased straight line traction (braking for for the front wheels and acceleration for the rear wheels) because of the distorted contact patch with the wheels not-normal to the ground.
do it, drive it, change as needed.
I could stand a little bit extra negative camber in the rear for the extra power.
but remember, the tradeoff for lots of negative camber is decreased straight line traction (braking for for the front wheels and acceleration for the rear wheels) because of the distorted contact patch with the wheels not-normal to the ground.
Mine's max caster, -1.8 camber front, -2 rear, zero toe front, 1/4" in rear. Works well enough.. but I have so little body roll that I think I can get away with dialing out some camber and save on tires/launch better.
here are new alignment im proposing for my car when its done. im still not sure about camber up front...
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
here are new alignment im proposing for my car when its done. im still not sure about camber up front...
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
MY settings are all out of wack, however i just got my car corner weighed today and have a 50% cross weight at a ride height of 11.75F and 12.3R ill be trying emilio's "race" allignment next
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,338
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From: Fake Virginia
here are new alignment im proposing for my car when its done. im still not sure about camber up front...
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
-2.4 to -2.8 degrees camber front
-2 degrees camber rear
max caster
1/16 toe out front
0 toe rear
that is track setup though... my specs are in that "specs thread" if interested
no, thats just for soft tires im planning to run on track. also, there shouldnt be any oversteer with my setup and this alignment as 1.5-way diff adds understeer to my perfectly neutral suspension and i have to balance it out a bit.
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From: Fake Virginia
incidentally, lifting mid-corner with that diff and setup = loop-de-loop
Car weighs 2046lbs.
300 rwhp
50/50 cross bias
375/250 spring rates
stock front bar, swap between stock rear bar and none.
torsen of course
auto-xing last week with -2.5 degrees in the rear i had no grip out of turns on my Nitto 225/45/15 NT-01s. Car was last aligned before turbo.
Just had it aligned Tuesday to the following specs.
FRONT
-1.5 camber
4.0 caster (manual rack)
-1/8 total toe
REAR
-1.0
1/16 total
Will find out this Sunday how it does.
Btw, during the morning session it was pouring and the car was ******* awesome. Of course I was a bit more conservative with the throttle. In the dry when I'd drop the hammer it just couldn't hold.
300 rwhp
50/50 cross bias
375/250 spring rates
stock front bar, swap between stock rear bar and none.
torsen of course
auto-xing last week with -2.5 degrees in the rear i had no grip out of turns on my Nitto 225/45/15 NT-01s. Car was last aligned before turbo.
Just had it aligned Tuesday to the following specs.
FRONT
-1.5 camber
4.0 caster (manual rack)
-1/8 total toe
REAR
-1.0
1/16 total
Will find out this Sunday how it does.
Btw, during the morning session it was pouring and the car was ******* awesome. Of course I was a bit more conservative with the throttle. In the dry when I'd drop the hammer it just couldn't hold.






