Notices
DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

rear mount turbo ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:40 PM
  #1  
3barboost's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 109
Total Cats: 0
From: Johannesburg, South Africa
Default rear mount turbo ?

dont laugh your *** off - yet

has anyone played with a rear mount turbo on a miata ?

sure its easy enough to put one in the engine bay

but what about one under the trunk, running low boost and no intercooler, purely letting the length of the pipe work function as an intercooler, max 0.5 bar or so

I think it would be simpler and not sure of downsides at this stage as its just an idea - biggest headache will be the oil feed and return issues - but theres comp turbos grease filled turbo to make that problem go away,


I am guessing it will be cheaper to do a rear mount for sure

whats the obvious thing I am missing ?
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:42 PM
  #2  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Originally Posted by 3barboost
dont laugh your *** off - yet

has anyone played with a rear mount turbo on a miata ?

sure its easy enough to put one in the engine bay

but what about one under the trunk, running low boost and no intercooler, purely letting the length of the pipe work function as an intercooler, max 0.5 bar or so

I think it would be simpler and not sure of downsides at this stage as its just an idea - biggest headache will be the oil feed and return issues - but theres comp turbos grease filled turbo to make that problem go away,


I am guessing it will be cheaper to do a rear mount for sure

whats the obvious thing I am missing ?
oh dear lord, where to start.........
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:54 PM
  #3  
pdexta's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,954
Total Cats: 184
From: Knoxville, TN
Default

Room seems like the biggest issue to me; aside from lag, extra piping, and oil supply/return. Trying to find space to mount a turbo under the car, then trying to find space to not only run an exhaust back to the turbo but to run charge piping back to the intake seems like a nightmare.

On the other hand a basic log manifold and charge piping run in the exact same spot at the stock intake is probably the easiest, simplist, and most straight forward aftermarket turbo setup I've ever seen on any car. It just doesn't make sense to me, but I'd love to see if someone could do it.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 02:59 PM
  #4  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

What Scott said.

There is almost nothing more simple than a basic log turbo setup on a miata. It doesn't get any less complicated than that. You have to be mental institution grade retarded to think a remote mount would be in any way shape or form better.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:15 PM
  #5  
EO2K's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,477
Total Cats: 1,924
From: Very NorCal
Default

Along with the "Feline Disrespect" warning classification, we need one for "rear mount turbo" as well
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:22 PM
  #6  
3barboost's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 109
Total Cats: 0
From: Johannesburg, South Africa
Default

hee hee - funny ***'s

I actually expected worse and to be chewed up for the idea - at least its not a build thread.......

I know its a brain fart idea
i am just about to pull the trigger on some in engine bay goodness
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:28 PM
  #7  
EO2K's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,477
Total Cats: 1,924
From: Very NorCal
Default

Originally Posted by 3barboost
I actually expected worse and to be chewed up for the idea - at least its not a build thread.......
Its Saturday morning and most of us (or at least me) are still hung over
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:32 PM
  #8  
BTMiata's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,512
Total Cats: 30
From: South Jersey
Default

I actually just saw a picture yesterday on this forum for a rear mount turbo set-up. I clicked the picture and checked the guys started threads. He had everything mounted up but it was ghetto as hell looking and I'm pretty sure he failed miserably.... at least that's what I took from his build thread.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:40 PM
  #9  
3barboost's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 109
Total Cats: 0
From: Johannesburg, South Africa
Default

this thread is what has prompted the brain fart to do it on a miata
FRS Rear Turbo - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB
check that thread out its not ghetto
the lack of dyno results is annoying
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:42 PM
  #10  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,541
Total Cats: 4,364
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

do we drive a BRZ?
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:50 PM
  #11  
3barboost's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 109
Total Cats: 0
From: Johannesburg, South Africa
Default

naaah but just dreaming some time away
someone will do it some day (just not me)
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 03:53 PM
  #12  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

actually it is beyond retarded even on an BRZ.
that "kit" is a joke
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 04:24 PM
  #13  
Saml01's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 5,710
Total Cats: 3
From: NYC
Default

I think a few years ago someone on miata.net tried it. If I remember correctly, did the guy cut his trunk pan out or something to get it to fit? It was pretty nasty looking overall.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 04:26 PM
  #14  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,541
Total Cats: 4,364
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

It over heated and seized up
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 07:49 PM
  #15  
hornetball's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,301
Total Cats: 697
From: Granbury, TX
Default

Originally Posted by 3barboost
this thread is what has prompted the brain fart to do it on a miata
FRS Rear Turbo - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB
check that thread out its not ghetto
the lack of dyno results is annoying
So the whole point was to install a turbo on a new car in California without being put on Death Row of emissions violations. OK, I get it. Desperate people do desperate things.

Why would you even remotely consider this in Joeberg? It's not cool. It's sad.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:19 PM
  #16  
Joe Perez's Avatar
Boost Pope
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 34,381
Total Cats: 7,504
From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Default

I'm still grappling with the concept that the turbocharger on this Subie uses sealed, greased bearings, and requires no oil. Something about that concept isn't quite clicking.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 08:34 PM
  #17  
curly's Avatar
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 15,168
Total Cats: 1,393
From: Oregon City, OR
Default

Joe, it's a comp turbo. That solves all the problems.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 10:18 PM
  #18  
Braineack's Avatar
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,541
Total Cats: 4,364
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

maxilube turbo.
Old Dec 22, 2012 | 10:28 PM
  #19  
94mx5red's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 677
Total Cats: 6
From: South East Florida
Default

Needs more fat guys leaning on rear wings.
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 12:50 AM
  #20  
hornetball's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,301
Total Cats: 697
From: Granbury, TX
Default

Turbo installed in a position where the exhaust stream has already lost all of its heat energy (enthalpy for you geeks). The coolant is plumbed in to keep it heated.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:53 AM.