Notices
Engine Performance This section is for discussion on all engine building related questions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: KPower

Spal Fans killing engine

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 08:14 AM
  #1  
carnut169's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 280
Total Cats: 36
From: Atlanta, Ga
Default Spal Fans killing engine

I installed a new FM crossflow this weekend with their shroud complete with two big Spal fans. Drove the car to work today and if I am idling when the fan kicks in the amp draw is stalling the engine. Maybe this should be in the tuning section but is there anything I can do to prevent this?

FWIW, the FM Crossflow (Griffin) is a sweet piece. Expensive but really nice.
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 08:40 AM
  #2  
Reverant's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,019
Total Cats: 368
From: Athens, Greece
Default

Do you only switch on the first fan or both? If both, only activate the first fan.

The increase the idle duty adder for the first fan, under fan control.
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 09:24 AM
  #3  
concealer404's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,917
Total Cats: 2,206
Default

Triggering both those bad boys at once is gonna be rough. Stagger them like OEM, and it should be ok.

If you're still running the NB alternator, you'll have to do some tuning work if you're going to trigger both at once.
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 10:07 AM
  #4  
Leafy's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,491
Total Cats: 105
From: NH
Default

This happens on my AEM as well with the two 12" silicone intakes fans. I've come down to basically discovering that my tune under 850rpms is too lean and when the fans kicked on they would pull the idle that low and on the low I would just see the last two data points before rpm = 0 to be the car shooting lean. Added a bit more fuel and now it almost never stalls at idle. I really wish the AEM had the ability to idle up when the fans kicked on.
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 11:54 AM
  #5  
Twodoor's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 628
Total Cats: 44
From: Meridian, Mississippi
Default

Do you still have AC? If not, perhaps the AC idle up function can be coopted to work with the fans coming on.

Keith
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:00 PM
  #6  
TorqueZombie's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,656
Total Cats: 64
From: Albuquerque, NM
Default

I will add that adding a giant Optima D51r battery doesn't fix it either. However, you van leave the lights on during a movie a still fire the car later. So that's a plus. I might try adding fuel to come once it runs.
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:24 PM
  #7  
carnut169's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 280
Total Cats: 36
From: Atlanta, Ga
Default

Originally Posted by Reverant
Do you only switch on the first fan or both? If both, only activate the first fan.

The increase the idle duty adder for the first fan, under fan control.

Ok, thanks.

I believe it's just one but I'll double check. When I turn on the a/c both fans kick on (but it does not stall!).
Old Aug 25, 2014 | 12:44 PM
  #8  
sixshooter's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 22,155
Total Cats: 3,536
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

There is such a thing as a relay with a built-in delay timer to stagger start times if needed.
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 02:09 AM
  #9  
lvw's Avatar
lvw
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 143
Total Cats: 5
From: Hanover,Va
Default

.... Caspers Electronics,relay delay module No.109086. Just saw this post.It has to be wired in series with the coil. Gives about 5 second delay for your second fan. I have been having the same problem. The delay does work for the fan but, I have a pretty high idle tuned in to compensate and have not tuned it since I put in the delay. I will have to let you know how much it eally helps.
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 09:24 AM
  #10  
Twodoor's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 628
Total Cats: 44
From: Meridian, Mississippi
Default

Another solution would be a heavy duty capacitor wired in line with the fan motor. Just a thought.

Keith
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
Apr 12, 2021 04:21 PM
StratoBlue1109
Miata parts for sale/trade
21
Sep 30, 2018 01:09 PM
90 Turbo
MEGAsquirt
19
Oct 19, 2015 03:23 PM
tazswing
Race Prep
20
Oct 3, 2015 11:04 AM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:26 AM.