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Old Oct 8, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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Default LTG Ecotec Swap.. A bit of good info

I will admit- I am not swapping the motor into a Miata but I am replacing my Lotus7's engine with the Ecotec.



A bit about the swap and such-

The engine is a 2016 Chevrolet Camaro LTG Engine (2.0T) that is advertised at 275HP and 295 LB of TQ stock.
Transmission is from a 2015 Cadillac ATS with the 2.0 . It is the 6 speed Tremec.

Clutch- Factory Clutch- The car wont put down enough weight to resist the wheel spin.
Flywheel- Fidanza Flywheel- Would not recommend. Several defects and issues.

FAQ's I usually get:

Q.Why didn't I turbo my Miata engine?
A. I didnt believe the engine would be an affordable way to make 450HP and stay together.

Q. What is my power goal?
A. I will see once its together and I can drive it. I suspect anything over 300 will be mental!

Q. Did I look at the standard Ecotec swap?
A. Yes, but the Miata Trans was something I wanted to get away from

Q. Do I think it will fit?
A. I expect it to be taller than the Miata engine but it would fit in the Miata engine bay without any issues. The trans shifter location is within 1/4" of where the miata trans exited.

Q. Will I be swapping in a new rear end?
A. I don't think I will off the bat. My expectation is even with slicks I wont be able to keep the tires from breaking loose off the line. Besides- The rear end swap appears to be a $2k dealio in most cases. I will most likely go to a 3.63 ratio

More details to come. Blog should be kept updated on www.exportedafrican.com or on Youtube @
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Very cool.
Will the LTG make 450? Are there cars out there like that now?
I wonder because these new tech engines are designed with impressive efficiency up to a certain point, and then just hit a brick wall after.
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Very cool.
Will the LTG make 450? Are there cars out there like that now?
I wonder because these new tech engines are designed with impressive efficiency up to a certain point, and then just hit a brick wall after.
There are a few.
One company makes an upgraded turbo which helps get past that brick wall. The stock boost its apparently 24 lbs so thermal efficiency isn't great but direct injection helps.

I am planning to run e85 which will help as well.

Here is a guy in the 500s

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=538515
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that's pretty darn impressive. thanks for the link
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Well its in... Kinda

Things that are positive:

It would fit in the Miata trans tunnel. On a Miata you would probably have firewall issues since the heater core lines come out the back.

Things that aren't positive:
It's about 2" taller. I expected around 1.5"
The steering shaft might have to be routed thru the serpentine belt..

Will come up with some other ideas and post back.

I'll probably throw some pictures of the Miata engine and ecotec side by side on my word press page
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If running the stock ecu make sure it has the latest software. There is an issue with those engines having piston failures due to improper fuel tuning from the factory. I have done a few rebuilds/engine replacements on that series engine because of that.
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Originally Posted by L337TurboZ
If running the stock ecu make sure it has the latest software. There is an issue with those engines having piston failures due to improper fuel tuning from the factory. I have done a few rebuilds/engine replacements on that series engine because of that.
Thanks. I landed up going with a 2016 base tune. Hopefully it fixes most of the problems by that time!
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Originally Posted by L337TurboZ
If running the stock ecu make sure it has the latest software. There is an issue with those engines having piston failures due to improper fuel tuning from the factory. I have done a few rebuilds/engine replacements on that series engine because of that.

Not to thread jack here, but in that regard can you clarify for those of us looming for engines, what differences are there between the fwd and other versions of this engine? I have an LTG malibu and another LTG I got a deal on which as far as i can tell, has only a different front cover and looks like the head is different to facilitate the top left engine mount. Any block differences? Between 2 engines and a whole 2013 malibu, surely I can develop a swap here
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Originally Posted by Alex Blakley
Not to thread jack here, but in that regard can you clarify for those of us looming for engines, what differences are there between the fwd and other versions of this engine? I have an LTG malibu and another LTG I got a deal on which as far as i can tell, has only a different front cover and looks like the head is different to facilitate the top left engine mount. Any block differences? Between 2 engines and a whole 2013 malibu, surely I can develop a swap here
I believe the cover and alternator mounts were the only difference. Outside of wiring harness

Admittedly it has been a while and I moved on to a blown k20
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