Damnit, I didn't want to post and ask because I thought it would come to me, but what the hell is this from? I vaguely remember some dumb video...

Fast and the furryious brah

They're no free lunch, throttle response and idle is amazing with a FMIC, but the part throttle noise got on my tits.

I converted the lot to a coldside setup, LOTS less power, but much more civilised, the car was too extreme/noisy for what was 98% of the time a commuting vehicle.

I couldn't/can't afford a turbo setup - yet.

Apart from lack of intercooler any good reaosn why the cold side made much less power?

Dann

There is no other reason.

With the IC, I can spin the knackers off the blower, outlet temps are 150+degC, but the FMIC drops that to just above ambient.

No FMIC means those blower outlet temps are now my IAT's. On track and spinning the blower much MUCH slower (1.5:1 rather than 2:1 pulley ratio), I see IAT's up to 150degC.

So you're severely power limited due to det

But you'd have exactly the same with a non intercooled turbo vs an intercooled turbo, except you'd get more power in both scenarios as the parasatic losses are lower and their efficiencies are higher.

This is why Im feeding a blower with an intercooled BIG turbo, with E85 and preblower E85.

Low compression to fight det, and only a big enough blower pulley to get the turbo going at an acceptable rate.

the other option is a sprintex/sc14 mounted hotside and then into a V mount, still feeding it with a monster turbo of course.

Dann

After many a day of driving the suckercharger, I'm still a fan. 5psi of boost never felt sooo, uhh, well it's hard to tell it's there. But the butt dyno says I at least gained some sort of power. The needle at 5psi on the boost gauge is cool though.

+1 that. I love my low boosted M45 with a little pop once in a while but ever driveable and reliable. Won't beat any well boosted miata but sure enough to beat my driving skills lol. I definitely can tell it is there since my daily drive is an automatic Mazda 5.

Why not just use N0zz. Seriously though.

You should get another red turbo NA. ;)

Breaking news: Supercharger comes off this weekend.

All in all, it was a good experience lol. Removing the supercharger has nothing to do with it's performance, I have decided to sell the NB and go back to an NA.

The NB is great, but in the end I just like the NAs better. So if anyone reading this wants a great SC for their NB (Think it works on NA too since I have an NA TB dummy too) get at me!

Just need to find that perfect one ;)

You're a very persuasive man, Koto.

But really though: please tell us specifics - what makes you want an NA over an NB?

NA is a better miata, NB is a better car.

That's my look at it, anyway. My friend's 02se was great to drive, but it won't make you smile like my old pos. Would own both, lol.

what makes you smile?

I've driven both many many many times and just don't "get it" I guess.

Circumstances have changed. I live within biking distance to school. And will be attending school, all year round, for the next 2-3 years. So I don't need a fancy NB. I want a car I can play with on the weekends, or go out and drive to take a break from studying or whatever. Plus when I graduate I will hopefully turn it into my toy, and get a practical car for a daily. The NB doesn't really fit into that plan, as I consider it more of a compromise between daily and fun. I want a daily, and a fun. And since I don't need a daily now, I'll get a fun :D

NA feels more raw a.k.a. shittier (honestly) :giggle: I have no reasonable way to explain it.

Buy Kotomile's car!!!!!!!

NB is better in almost every regard.

I wouldn't say that. I guess on paper it might be true. But having owned 2 NAs and 2 NBs I will say I had much more fun driving the NAs.

Once modified it doesn't matter, but every stock NA i've driven made me want to slit my wrists and bleed out all over the shitty interior.

The stock NBs were just barely bearable.

So what makes them more fun? I just don't get it. They have less bracing, less creature comforts, are marginally lighter, and the interior is not as spiffy.

I'm not criticizing, I'm just genuinely curious if anyone can actually articulate their opinion on choosing one vs the other. I've asked this before, and most just say the same old " its a better miata, but nb is better car" line which to a certain extent makes sense, but is very vague.