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mx54life 04-15-2013 03:56 PM

Must have gauges for a supercharged miata???
 
So I just got my Innovate wideband O2 and just realized that I have a choice of either ordering a 2 or 3 hole gauge panel (decided on DDM works). Other than a boost/vacuum gauge (ordered one today) what is another MUST have gauge should I get? If I'm set with these two then I will just get the 2 hole panel.

Thanks for any input guys.

FYI: I have a 1994 so I should be all set with the oil gauge? Or am I not?

18psi 04-15-2013 04:05 PM

Get the "lack of turbo" gauge. It will always be pegged at 100% :party:


No but really those 2 should be fine. You might want a real water temp gauge, but only if you want one.

mgeoffriau 04-15-2013 04:07 PM

I'd recommend a 12 gauge.

triple88a 04-15-2013 04:16 PM

A real coolant temp gauge would be nice.

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1001287)
Get the "lack of turbo" gauge. It will always be pegged at 100% :party:


No but really those 2 should be fine. You might want a real water temp gauge, but only if you want one.

Be kind to the less fortunate ones. My 5-6 psi is enough to make me smile at the end of the day too. May not be as fast as you can smile but slow enough to enjoy boost so to speak lol.

Water gauge? What benefit would I get in terms of temp? My three layered radiator seems to do the job fine.

So basically these two would be okay cool. Thank you sir. I will order the 2 hole panel then.

Oh if I would go turbo down the road would I need the water gauge?

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1001293)
A real coolant temp gauge would be nice.

Is this the same as water gauge?

triple88a 04-15-2013 04:18 PM

Yeah but your three layered radiator doesn't do 2 shits when your thermostat gets stuck closed.

Yes water temp gauge.

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1001290)
I'd recommend a 12 gauge.

I have a couple of these bad boys and its siblings.

hornetball 04-15-2013 04:19 PM

If you're going to track it, oil temperature.

I got a combo Vacuum/Boost and AFR gauge from VEI. Both main functions in one gauge. Slick.

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1001297)
Yeah but your three layered radiator doesn't do 2 shits when your thermostat gets stuck closed.

Yes water temp gauge.

Ah okay an extra eye out. Well the 3 hole is a better option then. I'm in to making this set up efficient so 3 damn gauges be it. Thank you guys.

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1001300)
If you're going to track it, oil temperature.

I got a combo Vacuum/Boost and AFR gauge from VEI. Both main functions in one gauge. Slick.

Well I have the Innovate MTX-L wideband and just ordered the Innovate MTX-L boost/vacuum (2 functions in one gauge). So I guess I will go for the MTX-L water and voltage kit.

triple88a 04-15-2013 04:24 PM

It all matters what you plan on doing with the car. You may even need more gauges as said above depending on the use. Oil temp gauge is also nice to have.

2 functions in 1? Most gauges are boost/vacuum.

hornetball 04-15-2013 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by mx54life (Post 1001305)
Innovate MTX-L boost/vacuum (2 functions in one gauge)

boost/vacuum is 1 function (MAP)

mx54life 04-15-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1001306)
It all matters what you plan on doing with the car. You may even need more gauges as said above depending on the use. Oil temp gauge is also nice to have.

2 functions in 1? Most gauges are boost/vacuum.

I mean the Innovate MTXL boost gauge has also the shift light gauge.

No racing just spirited driving. My goal is just to get her efficient and well equipped enough to hang in bench racing lol. She may get a turbocharged engine down the road when the 2 kids are done college. I have another 1994 that I'm building the engine for boost. It still has ways to go.

For now I think these three will be more than enough.

triple88a 04-15-2013 08:12 PM

Well turbo or SC. the gauges stay pretty much the same other than the "lack of turbo" gauge already mentioned.

pdexta 04-16-2013 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by mx54life (Post 1001295)
Water gauge? What benefit would I get in terms of temp? My three layered radiator seems to do the job fine.

The stock gauge reads the same temp at anything between 90 and 230 degrees (ok maybe not quite that dramatic, but it's bad).

On your car there's a 140 degree range where you think your radiator is doing the job fine. My water gauge tells me what the actual temperature is, so there's a 20 degree range where I know my radiator is doing the job fine.

hustler 04-16-2013 09:42 AM

Estrogen gauge.

EO2K 04-16-2013 10:38 AM

I really dig my VEI gauges. You can call/email the guys at VEI and they can build you dual function gauges in any combination you want. I have Boost/AFR, Oil Press/Oil Temp, Coolant Temp/IAT :party:

Now I just need to figure out how/where to mount them.

hustler 04-16-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1001567)
I really dig my VEI gauges. You can call/email the guys at VEI and they can build you dual function gauges in any combination you want. I have Boost/AFR, Oil Press/Oil Temp, Coolant Temp/IAT :party:

Now I just need to figure out how/where to mount them.

Where are the grounds? I have a dual temp and they never, ever read correctly, they're like 50* off the real temp. If my water temp gauge says 127, water temp is 180*f. If the oil temp gauge says 122*, then oil temp is 230*f.

EO2K 04-16-2013 10:56 AM

Currently sitting on my workbench?

GOD DAMMIT HUSTLER! I NEED TO STOP BUYING THINGS YOU BUY! I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT I SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW!

My intent was to be paranoid and ground them directly to the block, but as I've said, I've not had a chance to permanently install them yet. How are you validating your temps?

hustler 04-16-2013 11:13 AM

I'm just going to run Shadow Dash in both cars instead of gauges now. Two or three big ass gauges on a custom screen for the track car should work.

EO2K 04-16-2013 11:51 AM

That's funny, because I haz Nexus and was thinking about doing the same.

BRB: Going to save myself the frustration and kill myself now

Stein 04-16-2013 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 1001575)
I'm just going to run Shadow Dash in both cars instead of gauges now. Two or three big ass gauges on a custom screen for the track car should work.

I'm really happy with the MaxiGauges that I got from Hakan. You can pick 10 parameters you want to monitor when they are built, user-settable alarms such as "if RPM > 3000 and Oil Pressure < 30, alarm", all sensors included, $360 shipped. Putting another set in the SAAB.

Mazduh 04-16-2013 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 1001599)
I'm really happy with the MaxiGauges that I got from Hakan. You can pick 10 parameters you want to monitor when they are built, user-settable alarms such as "if RPM > 3000 and Oil Pressure < 30, alarm", all sensors included, $360 shipped. Putting another set in the SAAB.

Link to store? :hsugh:

hustler 04-16-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 1001599)
I'm really happy with the MaxiGauges that I got from Hakan. You can pick 10 parameters you want to monitor when they are built, user-settable alarms such as "if RPM > 3000 and Oil Pressure < 30, alarm", all sensors included, $360 shipped. Putting another set in the SAAB.

Or buy Shadow Dash for $10 and the BT antenna for $60 and use it with your phone. The screen will turn red or whatever when the gauge of your choice exceeds whatever.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366129433

Godless Commie 04-16-2013 12:46 PM

I have a supercharger, too!

Why settle for 2 gauges when you can have 8?


Godless Commie 04-16-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 1001612)
Or buy Shadow Dash for $10 and the BT antenna for $60 and use it with your phone. The screen will turn red or whatever when the gauge of your choice exceeds whatever.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366129433

Dat is cool.
Just ordered the BT adapter, android logger is next.

hustler 04-16-2013 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Godless Commie (Post 1001636)
Dat is cool.
Just ordered the BT adapter, android logger is next.

It logs as well. LOL @ my gearing.

mx54life 04-16-2013 04:03 PM

You boys are awesomely hilarious. This is now more like a "WANNA have gauges for a supercharged miata". The question that begs to be quantified is where is the bottom line of gauges? I know it depends on what u what to use it for, what ur willing to pay and/or how it looks to u. Then there is that...is it of good quality? And some other seemingly pertinent insights.

Anyways thanks for all your wisdom and most of all experience.

Oh I settled for the wideband, boost and water gauges. I will post pics when they are installed as I think it will look a bit retro and factory at the same time.

hustler 04-16-2013 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by mx54life (Post 1001705)
You boys are awesomely hilarious. This is now more like a "WANNA have gauges for a supercharged miata". The question that begs to be quantified is where is the bottom line of gauges? I know it depends on what u what to use it for, what ur willing to pay and/or how it looks to u. Then there is that...is it of good quality? And some other seemingly pertinent insights.

Anyways thanks for all your wisdom and most of all experience.

Oh I settled for the wideband, boost and water gauges. I will post pics when they are installed as I think it will look a bit retro and factory at the same time.

Great way to blow money out your ass and act like an incredulous troglodyte.

mx54life 04-16-2013 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 1001716)
Great way to blow money out your ass and act like an incredulous troglodyte.

Yes sir work hard play hard, even ancient people did that and yes w/or w/o comprehension. Live and learn. I understand no harm no foul.

Again thanks for the insight ya'll, made my decision making on gauges easy.

Jumbosrule 04-24-2013 04:02 PM

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sort of late to the party but I just joined, got myself a supercharger and have a single gauge installed that can handle up to 25 sensors. I currently have Boost/vac and AFR, which are the two things I would have recommended for you. Water temperature is sort of redundant even though your stock gauge isn't accurate as it could be. If it goes up - you pull over and cool it down.

The PLX multi-gauge allows you to daisy chain sensor modules and then scroll through them by touching the screen. There are also different views for each sensor - big digital number, a scrolling graph with a two minute window and peak values.

I installed my multi-gauge in the IL motorsport single cubby.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366833769

elesjuan 04-24-2013 05:03 PM

How about a % belt slip gauge? Or maybe a % belt life left gauge? Guess the underside of your hood would give you a similar idea..


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...2yH6HoEkVFliwz

mx54life 04-24-2013 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 1005022)
How about a % belt slip gauge? Or maybe a % belt life left gauge? Guess the underside of your hood would give you a similar idea..


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...2yH6HoEkVFliwz

Definitely the best gauge. Any link for this alleged gauge? LOL. I need one coz my car just keeps on goin.

mx54life 04-24-2013 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jumbosrule (Post 1005005)
sort of late to the party but I just joined, got myself a supercharger and have a single gauge installed that can handle up to 25 sensors. I currently have Boost/vac and AFR, which are the two things I would have recommended for you. Water temperature is sort of redundant even though your stock gauge isn't accurate as it could be. If it goes up - you pull over and cool it down.

The PLX multi-gauge allows you to daisy chain sensor modules and then scroll through them by touching the screen. There are also different views for each sensor - big digital number, a scrolling graph with a two minute window and peak values.

I installed my multi-gauge in the IL motorsport single cubby.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1366833769

That is awesome.

Godless Commie 04-24-2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mazduh (Post 1001609)
Link to store? :hsugh:

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...-gauges-59775/

triple88a 04-24-2013 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by mx54life (Post 1005060)
Definitely the best gauge. Any link for this alleged gauge? LOL. I need one coz my car just keeps on goin.

Toss an rpm sensor or some shit on the super charger.

laguna96 06-05-2013 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1005065)
Toss an rpm sensor or some shit on the super charger.

Analog RPM indicator would be a good belt slip indicator if you know your ratio. Would also double as a bitch indicator if you're not pegging the limiter on shifts.

Flat out or get out.

SC99 Sport 06-21-2013 03:21 PM

I had the PLX gauges in an S2000 and had I hard time reading them in a lot of light conditions. Now have a SC NB. For gauges - Boost, AFR, and a dual Water/Oil Temp. The dual gauges are a little hard to read at speed.

BTMiata 06-21-2013 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1001287)
Get the "lack of turbo" gauge. It will always be pegged at 100% :party:


No but really those 2 should be fine. You might want a real water temp gauge, but only if you want one.


Vlad now you need one too :rofl:

18psi 06-21-2013 03:29 PM

:giggle:


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