Jefe

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Not sure if it matters, but on my coldside, its just a square AL box attached to the motor, w/ the M45 sitting on top. Very basic.

Also IIRC some people w/ S/C upgrade to the Mustang TB (70mm) I have never done it (nor really paid attention)so I'm not sure what else is involved.
The SOT forum is still up (the old BRP) and the TB upgrade is in there somewhere.

patsmx5

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Got any pics of the SC mounted or the brackets you built? Would love to see them. Thanks.

elesjuan

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Building a complete manifold from scratch I'd go with a larger TB myself. Might not honestly be needed, but hey, while you're there...

That article on the TT-SC Cobra is insane!! I don't even want to think about how much that setup would cost! Also can't believe the motor held that abuse! IMPRESSIVE!

Btw, Pat.. Update! NOW!

oreo

cool project.

are you planning on driving both sc's with one belt?

might be a little late, but here are some pics of the custom sc bracket I made. It mounts to the 2 center header studs, and the hole at the front of the head that normally holds the bracket for lifting the engine out.

its actually 3 pieces .. #1-a sort of D shaped plate, with 8 holes.. 2 are for the header studs, and 2 are for cap screws to mount to an small rectangular plate (the other 4 holes are unused), #2- a small rectangular piece with 5 holes. #3 - a long rectangular plate, with 6 holes, 3 for mounting to plate #2. The sc mounts to the rear 2 holes in plate 3, and the front bolt.

perhaps a little heavy, but has worked fine for the last 4 yrs.

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I probably have drawings for these if your interested.

patsmx5

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I can't shake this SC idea. I've been planing to turbo lately since it's easier and cheaper and all that. But when I think of putting a pair of twin screws on the miata I start grinning. I've done said I was gonna do it. I want to do it. I have 3 SC's already. It would be a lot of work and fabrication, but when it's done it would be a hell of a setup. Could do 500whp with a pulley swap. I feel like I have to do it.

y8s

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one more super and you've got one per cylinder. now there's a crazy idea.

patsmx5

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Yea and I know where another one is too... lol. I'll be getting it too since they're cheap and I need another one that doesn't leak oil and need a rebuild. I think two will be plenty though. Two will fit with the stock hood, but I dunno about 3 or 4....

deadmeat

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Awesome Idea, Pat.

I'd love to see the two superchargers goin at it.

I've got the coldside from BRP myself with the large throttle body. I've been dying to do the "ColdFusion" turbo/supercharger setup myself.

Now that I think about it, maybe I'll try and to a remote mount since someone suggested it.

I have a crapload of IHI RHB5 vj11/12's just sitting around in the garage.

Hmmmm....

-meaty

patsmx5

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Quick update..
I'm buying parts for the build. I bought a 2, 2.5, and 3" mandrel builders kit online. 2" for the primaries on the header (I know right, that's gonna be big ), 2.5 for the IC pipes, and 3" for the exhaust. Ordered a GS radiator. Ordering a pair of 12" fans right now. Got 12' MS wiring harness for new standalone harness. Got RC 550cc injectors. Got thermostat housing for coolant reroute. Ordered a complete Ford EDIS igntion system. Got an ACT exteme clutch. Figure I'll keep colecting parts for a few weeks, then tear it down for the build.

deadmeat

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Have you got a link to whom you bought your piping kits from?

I'm looking to add on some 2.5 inch mandrel bends to be able to mount my muffler for my exhaust (center exit). I have a piece of flexpipe that I was thinking of using (read: lazy *** and it was cheap and easier than doing a bunch of welds) .

Got a link to your kits?

Also, I think the runners on the Racing Beat header I have are 2" . Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

-meaty

patsmx5

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RacingBeat header is 1.7 OD primaries and 2.375 OD collector. Mine will be 2" primaries to a 3" collector.

Here's where I ordered my bends from:
http://store.racing-solutions.org/

Ordered a pair of 12" fans for 53 shipped on eBay last night.

icantthink4155

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ooh man this is gonna be sick, even if it doesnt work that great, its still gonna be awesome to see, please post some pictures as soon as you can!

patsmx5

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I hope it works well. Got the fans and got the EDIS4 ignition system. Also got a pair of idler pulley's from a Mazda 929 that will be the tensioner for the SC belt. Also got 24 gallons of -20*F windshield washer fluid 40% Methanol for 14 dollars. Tempted to go get more at that price.

I'm kinda hesitant to do anything just yet. Kinda just need to do it at once after all the parts are here. Start by removing everything that's not needed or being replaced or upgraded, get the basic SC hardware done, then manifolds, then install the other needed systems around that, then wire and plumb everything. Guess it would be more efficient to do it all at once while everythings apart so to speak.

I do need to order some exhaust stuff. Guess I need to put the car on the lift and see what will fit and get that ordered. Exhaust stuff, water injection, IC couplers, fuel lines, and oil lines is about all I'm lacking that's hasn't been ordered yet.

patsmx5

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Ordered a 24" glasspack, 2 27" glasspacks, and a 5x8x20 bodied Magnaflow muffler. Basically there will be glasspacks and bends between the header and muffler. 3" in and out of the muffler, then transition to 2.5" out to the factory exhaust tip for the stock look.

icantthink4155

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Any updates on this? Very curious to see this in action.

patsmx5

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Update: Haven't actually done anything yet. Did a compression and leakdown test and motor looks strong. Ordered a piece of 3/8" x 4.5" x 48" steel plate to make my flanges with. Weir technologies is PATHETIC. Mailed him a gasket over a month ago, emailed him about once a week five times and still he won't put my order together. **** him. Every time I emailed him to find out what the status was he had forgot everything. After 3 weeks of waiting I get " I'll try to have it ready in a couple weeks" That was 3 weeks ago. I'll make my own damn flanges.

About to order a 6AN braided line kit and fuel pressure regulator from SummitRacing.

patsmx5

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Ordered a 4" (3.97 but who's counting?) crank pulley form StageOneTuning. It's the smallest crank pulley they sell. I have a 4" snout pulley, so that will be 1:1 drive. Oh well, I'll have plenty of headroom to upgrade. Also ordered a Mallory 30-100 PSI adjustable fuel pressure regulator. I'm building a new fuel system for the car. Turns out a local shop sells all the pipe to AN fittings or as they call them, "pipe to J.I.C." fittings for plumbing the fuel and oil lines. Very convenient indeed and all lines are double braided stainless and rated at 4200 PSI.

Looks like 99% of everything I can think of that I'll need has been ordered. I need to pick up a mechanical boost control thing so I can limit boost at first. I know MS will do it but I'd rather run the simple mechanical boost till I get the other stuff right, then fight MS to do it for me.

vehicular

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http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng..._bb/index.html

Mike Moran used manifolds like you're talking about building for this project^^

The only reason not to use these is packaging enough plenum volume into the engine bay. FSAE/ other open wheel series's use this sort of intake manifold all the time.

Personally, I'd twincharge, or just run the snot out of one of these blowers, and replace them as needed (word is you have spares, lol). There's something to be said for deying convention for a reason. Doing it just be be different, at the cost of lots of heartache for yourself is a little silly, yeah?

patsmx5

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Well, I'm doing it for several reasons. Using just 1 won't get me to my power goal. 1 is efficient to 230ish whp. After that it's sucking down lots of HP and blowing lots of hot air. 2 spinning will move the same volume of air cooler and use less power doing it above 250whp or so. Since I want to go straight to 300whp, it's appropriate. Granted using a larger twin screw would probably be a better solution. Thing is I already have these and they're readily available for cheap. 2 will also spin slower and should last a lot longer. It's gonna be a lot of up front work for sure. I hope that once it's done, it will be a reliable 300whp setup with the potential for 550whp with a pulley swap. Turbo guys can't buy a turbo efficient at 550whp and then drive it at 250 or 300whp. It would never spool.

Not twincharging it cause I don't like turbo's. Had 2 turbo cars and waiting for boost sucks. Twincharging would be the epitome of complex and expensive IMO. My setup seems complex and expensive too, but it's really not. It will actually be easier in some regards to use a pair vs a single SC. It will hopefully be cheaper than a good turbo setup too. Can't make any promises though till it's up and running, but all the SC hardware will probably be less than 500. Well, maybe more, but 40 a charger and that's w/ the recirculating valve, 81 dollar pulley, 12 for 2 tensioners, and then say 150 for oil lines and fittings. 100 for materials to build the brackets.

patsmx5

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Ordered the 20x 1.5 sandwich plate adapter thingy for oil feeds. It has two 1/8 NPT holes for my two oil feeds to the SC's.