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Old 10-08-2018, 10:37 PM
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Have a 1990 Miata 1.6 turbo. Has Tokico HP blues and Tokico 5053-3 (I think) springs on it. Rides like crap.

I'm looking for a comfortable street yet sporty type ride. This is not a racecar or an autocross only car. I may autocross here or there but not looking to break any records. From what I have been reading I was planning on going with Tokico Illuminas and FM springs but it looks like they have been discontinued? What would be the next best choice. Budget is ~$800 give or take.
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I'm gonna start mass banning noobs around here. This is getting out of hand
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That Bilstein thread should be stickied
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Basically I've come over to the camp of "If something is a reliability problem on the track, just ask Andrew and do what he says".
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Thanks for the spoon feed and kick in the ***. From what I had been reading everyone pointed to the illuminas, but it looks like that ship has sailed. I read the first dozen and and last dozen pages of that thread before posting. First thoughts were that it seemed janky; I was looking for off the shelf option that was easy and proven. Apparently the modded bilstein's have credence. I'll read thru that thread.
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That Bilstein thread should be stickied
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Originally Posted by nicholaschase29 View Post
Thanks for the spoon feed and kick in the ***. From what I had been reading everyone pointed to the illuminas, but it looks like that ship has sailed. I read the first dozen and and last dozen pages of that thread before posting. First thoughts were that it seemed janky; I was looking for off the shelf option that was easy and proven. Apparently the modded bilstein's have credence. I'll read thru that thread.
It can be done with less janky for a bit more money. Instead of the arguably-dangerous eBay sleeves, just order a set of Ground Control sleeves and Eibach springs in whatever flavor you fancy. Everything else is as legit as it gets (bushings/bumpstops). I had a set, 600/350 was too stiff, but I think a 450/300 setup would be perfection, as long as you're willing to accept that it's never going to change direction or rotate like a car with $2200 shocks.
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Wait, do you mean that sometimes you actually get...what...you...pay....for? whoa
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Still waiting for a nice summarized version of the 8000 page suspension thread. But of course I can still come visit these 200 page threads about it.
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Doubt it's gonna happen.
I think it goes something like: those that took the time and effort to read it, understand it, make informed choices, and then apply all of the above to building a proper setup aren't going to then sit for hours summarizing and spoon feeding some lazy entitled n00b.

Wanna be lazy? That's totally fine. Go pay a vendor and receive all of the above for a price. Most will be biased though, and most don't even know suspension 101, because they're just flipping parts they know little about.

So really, just don't be lazy
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I just opened this thread because I was curious how many neg cats it had. Kinda surprised at only -3.

Lol'd at better billy thread literally right under this one.

This is one of the things that bothers me about FB groups, ppl make threads similar to this on a large group and ppl go through the same arguments. Where as forums have loads of data and conversations regarding it right on the first page of the sub-forum.

I have nothing to add, I'm just complaining.
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Originally Posted by y8s View Post
Still waiting for a nice summarized version of the 8000 page suspension thread. But of course I can still come visit these 200 page threads about it.
I got you fam. Ready?

Buy:
1) Nb Bilstein sports
2) Sleeves/perches (Ground control, Allstar thru Summit/jegs, or 5x Racing)
3) Bumpstops (make informed decisions)
4) Springs (make informed decisions)
5) Top hats (make informed decisions)

Stir vigorously. Install on car. Profit.

There is NOT a one-size-fits-all answer to a Bilstein setup. That's why the thread is long.
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The only part I have not figured out from the billies thread is if people are talking about the B6 or the B8 NB billies...
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