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k1l4m 10-04-2014 01:16 AM

Budget Autox/Track Coilovers
 
I am looking for a coilover setup optimal for autocross and track use.

Has anyone had any experience with MeisterR coilovers (ZETA-R - MeisterR High Performance Suspension & Coilovers) or the HSD monopro ([url=http://www.hsdcoilovers.com/hsd-coilovers-mazda-mx5-rx7-and-rx8-mk1-mk2-fc3s-fd3s.html/] )? MeisterR comes with 7k/6k springs while the HSD comes with 9k/6k which seems to be a better choice.

Ohlins and XIDA are out of my budget so I am trying to decide whether I should consider/go with either of these coilovers. I am also considering the FM V-Maxx XXtreme, Tein Street Advance and BC racing ER series which I found mixed opinions about on the forums.

Leaning towards the Tein Street Advance with 9k/6k springs. I know some people will say save up for XIDA's but I have other things that I need to take care of with the car and don't want to wait forever to upgrade the yellow bilsteins.

Any thoughts/input would be appreciated.

Boost_creep 10-04-2014 09:25 AM

Jesus. I left Miata.net after seeing this same post there. Can't escape it I guess.

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php?t=41991&styleid=22.

k1l4m 10-04-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Boost_creep (Post 1172844)
Jesus. I left Miata.net after seeing this same post there. Can't escape it I guess.

Suspension hierarchy - Miata Turbo Forum - Turbo Kitten is watching you test compression..

At least I got your attention now, thanks for sharing that thread. I'll have a look at it.

jpreston 10-04-2014 06:52 PM

Just buy bilsteins.

turbofan 10-04-2014 07:41 PM

You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.

k1l4m 10-04-2014 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1172966)
You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.

I've got the yellow bilstein's (sport suspension) and I would prefer to get some new coilovers. Mine have 85,000kms on them.

wrxsubaru 10-05-2014 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by k1l4m (Post 1172993)
I've got the yellow bilstein's (sport suspension) and I would prefer to get some new coilovers. Mine have 85,000kms on them.

Bilsteins are the budget route. I am running MSM Bilsteins with 450/lbs front 300/lbs rear with ISC top hats and really like it. Rides better than stock on most surfaces and it has stepped up my autox game. It is not stiff enough for slicks, if that is what your planning but it will do fine with a R compound tire.

sixshooter 10-05-2014 01:23 PM

The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.

k1l4m 10-06-2014 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1173114)
The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.

What would you recommend for the yellow sport valved Bilstein's? (I'm assuming mine are not Hard S) Just get springs or not worth it since I don't have the MSM shocks?

sixshooter 10-06-2014 09:17 PM

There's a chart around here somewhere. The regular sport shocks don't have enough damping for very strong springs. What are the numbers stamped on the shocks?

SchmoozerJoe 10-06-2014 09:40 PM

Throw in a set of stock springs/shocks.
Spend $400 and get your Bilsteins revalved.
Win at life.

Leafy 10-07-2014 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1173522)
There's a chart around here somewhere. The regular sport shocks don't have enough damping for very strong springs. What are the numbers stamped on the shocks?

sport shocks arent bilstiens. If he has OEM yellow bilsteins then they must be HARDS. Otherwise theres HDs and Sports which are both aftermarket and have the same valving as each other the sports just have an internal travel limiter.

Seefo 10-09-2014 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1172966)
You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.

bilsteins are already a coilover. Every miata shock is already a coilover...some are height adjustable, some are not.

honestly, if you have bilsteins already then just throw stiffer springs and perches on them. good to go for autocross/track. They won't be too comfortable on the street, but its definitely a sacrifice you will make with any budget track/street setup.

turbofan 10-09-2014 04:03 PM

Pardon me, smartypants.

Chiburbian 10-09-2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1173114)
The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.

So say you have a blown Hard S or MSM Bilstein, what do you replace it with? I may be confused...

I ordered a single Bilstein HD (B6?) to tide me over until my XIDAs get here... Matter of fact Tirerack says that part number is on 6-8 week backorder nationally... That's why I only ordered one. Will it be dangerous for me to run that shock with my hard S bilstein in the meantime?

Leafy 10-09-2014 05:03 PM

Close enough. Though the factory one isnt all that much more expensive through mazda.


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