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Old 10-04-2014, 02:16 AM   #1
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I am looking for a coilover setup optimal for autocross and track use.

Has anyone had any experience with MeisterR coilovers (ZETA-R - MeisterR High Performance Suspension & Coilovers) or the HSD monopro ([url=http://www.hsdcoilovers.com/hsd-coilovers-mazda-mx5-rx7-and-rx8-mk1-mk2-fc3s-fd3s.html/] )? MeisterR comes with 7k/6k springs while the HSD comes with 9k/6k which seems to be a better choice.

Ohlins and XIDA are out of my budget so I am trying to decide whether I should consider/go with either of these coilovers. I am also considering the FM V-Maxx XXtreme, Tein Street Advance and BC racing ER series which I found mixed opinions about on the forums.

Leaning towards the Tein Street Advance with 9k/6k springs. I know some people will say save up for XIDA's but I have other things that I need to take care of with the car and don't want to wait forever to upgrade the yellow bilsteins.

Any thoughts/input would be appreciated.
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Jesus. I left Miata.net after seeing this same post there. Can't escape it I guess.

https://www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php?t=41991&styleid=22.
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Jesus. I left Miata.net after seeing this same post there. Can't escape it I guess.

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At least I got your attention now, thanks for sharing that thread. I'll have a look at it.
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Just buy bilsteins.
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You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.
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You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.
I've got the yellow bilstein's (sport suspension) and I would prefer to get some new coilovers. Mine have 85,000kms on them.
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I've got the yellow bilstein's (sport suspension) and I would prefer to get some new coilovers. Mine have 85,000kms on them.
Bilsteins are the budget route. I am running MSM Bilsteins with 450/lbs front 300/lbs rear with ISC top hats and really like it. Rides better than stock on most surfaces and it has stepped up my autox game. It is not stiff enough for slicks, if that is what your planning but it will do fine with a R compound tire.
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The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.
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The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.
What would you recommend for the yellow sport valved Bilstein's? (I'm assuming mine are not Hard S) Just get springs or not worth it since I don't have the MSM shocks?

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There's a chart around here somewhere. The regular sport shocks don't have enough damping for very strong springs. What are the numbers stamped on the shocks?
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Throw in a set of stock springs/shocks.
Spend $400 and get your Bilsteins revalved.
Win at life.
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There's a chart around here somewhere. The regular sport shocks don't have enough damping for very strong springs. What are the numbers stamped on the shocks?
sport shocks arent bilstiens. If he has OEM yellow bilsteins then they must be HARDS. Otherwise theres HDs and Sports which are both aftermarket and have the same valving as each other the sports just have an internal travel limiter.
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You've already got bilsteins? Everyone has a different definition of budget I guess. Most people would recommend turning your bilsteins into coilovers if they're in good shape.
bilsteins are already a coilover. Every miata shock is already a coilover...some are height adjustable, some are not.

honestly, if you have bilsteins already then just throw stiffer springs and perches on them. good to go for autocross/track. They won't be too comfortable on the street, but its definitely a sacrifice you will make with any budget track/street setup.
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Pardon me, smartypants.
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The sport valved Bilstein is different from the Hard S or the MSM valving.
So say you have a blown Hard S or MSM Bilstein, what do you replace it with? I may be confused...

I ordered a single Bilstein HD (B6?) to tide me over until my XIDAs get here... Matter of fact Tirerack says that part number is on 6-8 week backorder nationally... That's why I only ordered one. Will it be dangerous for me to run that shock with my hard S bilstein in the meantime?
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Close enough. Though the factory one isnt all that much more expensive through mazda.
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