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Old 09-01-2009, 01:08 PM   #21
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949 Racing advertises custom valving of the Basics at $130 each: Tein Basic coilover system 90-05 Miata FREE SHIPPING (USA only) - DSM64-LUSS2
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FatCat doesn't revalve anything but Bilsteins so far as I know. And at the ride heights you mentioned on M.net as "the highest you'd go" (12F, 12.5R), revalving won't make a damn bit of difference on the Basics, because you'll be on the bumpstops.
I dont remember saying that ... anyway, for quite a while I was running 13F-13.5R and just recently lowered it down a half an inch. Ride is a bit more rough since lowering.
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So far.. im very content with my kyb/gc setup w/ fcm bumpstops. My car is fairly low, and i have yet to hit the bumpstops.. I even live down a dirt road, although i barely go 5mph down it.

Either way, the car handles 100x better and is way more fun now. We shall see how long the struts last...
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Tokico's and FM springs or Ground Control coilovers. My FM springs sit at 13 F and 13.5 rear.

hmm...that's kind'a high
my NA is at 12 and 12.5 in the back and it's about as high as i would have it.

who sells the ground control coilovers? I searched FM's site and they don't have any info or pictures/prices
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hmm...that's kind'a high
my NA is at 12 and 12.5 in the back and it's about as high as i would have it.

who sells the ground control coilovers? I searched FM's site and they don't have any info or pictures/prices.
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If it is your wifes car, she will probably appreciate some Tokico Illuminas with new FM springs over a coilover setup.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:55 PM   #27
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but i am planning on putting 6UL's on it, 15x9's and with tokico i've read that the inside clearance sucks with the 9" wheel.
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I'd just run a agx with ground controls and some isc top hats in the rear, I had a similar set-up on my street/track car last year and it preformed well. Price is right too.
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but i am planning on putting 6UL's on it, 15x9's and with tokico i've read that the inside clearance sucks with the 9" wheel.
Unless your running a 275, the advantage of the 9" over an 8" is negligible. Plus you said wife's car, daily driver, some track time. It doesn't sound like this is a car being built to squeeze every last bit of performance out of it. Plus, the coilovers you mentioned in the first post do are all sub-par anyways. I bet the Tokico and FM combo would perform better.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:11 PM   #30
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the wheels are going to be 9" so i need a strut that won't interfere with the wheel.
believe me, i would love to spend the $700 on the FM combo if it was going to work for me. I don't want to pay extra just to pay extra.

the wheels have to be 9" because i plan on having spares should something happen to any of my wheels(same set of wheels).

So i'm basically buying another set for me, but letting her use them.
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then get some decent suspension while you are at it and stop ******* with our brains! it seems like youve made up your mind already.
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Did you talk to FCM or not? If you haven't you're doing yourself a disservice.

Of course, it's not my money. Feel free to waste it as you'd like.
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ive actually met with shaikh in person. great guy. again, you are buying a set of 9" which you completely dont need. there are TONS of other wheels that will fit 225 tires without problems and they will work just fine with cheaper shock/spring setup. you are setting yourself up for extra headache that you dont need.
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For the street, FCM Bilsteins. If you don't want to pay $2200, then you don't understand what good suspension is, and feel free to order whatever crap you desire.

Good shocks cost a thousand dollars - period. If you pay less, they aren't good.
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For the street, FCM Bilsteins. If you don't want to pay $2200, then you don't understand what good suspension is, and feel free to order whatever crap you desire.

Good shocks cost a thousand dollars - period. If you pay less, they aren't good.
for a daily driver? nah... of course you cant get anything GREAT for under $1k for shocks alone but you can get very DECENT shocks (illuminas, koni race) for under $500. they will work just fine for street driving and occasional track events. you wont be extremely competitive and wont be pulling record lap times but they will work just fine.
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Why do you insist on 15" x 9" wheels??
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For the street, FCM Bilsteins. If you don't want to pay $2200, then you don't understand what good suspension is, and feel free to order whatever crap you desire.

Good shocks cost a thousand dollars - period. If you pay less, they aren't good.
The adjustables are $2200.. ($2206 actually... ) the regular coilover/revalves are around $1600 last I looked and street cars don't need adjustables IMHO.

Street or track... they're hard to beat.
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It sounds like its mostly street with a little "just for fun autocross" with tucked tires.

swaybars (duh)
Off the Shelf NA Bilstein HD
Buy some sleeves and springs (I.E. Ground control) 325 lb/in front 200ish rear
modded NB tophats at least. ISC tophats if you plan to go any lower or get more serious with racing.

if you get sticky tires and can't handle the body roll any more just move the 325 lb/in spring from the front to the rear, and get some 550 lb/in springs for the rear. If you get serious, have them revalved for your intended rates.

I wouldn't buy tokicos or AGX for anything stiffer than drop springs. They blow quickly and have extremely random adjustments. if you go from 3 to 4 and back to 3, the first three is not close to the second 3.
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Why ISC tophats over FCM?
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It sounds like its mostly street with a little "just for fun autocross" with tucked tires.

just move the 325 lb/in spring from the front to the rear, and get some 550 lb/in springs for the rear.
You mean 550s for the front, right?
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