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SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 01:31 AM

Enkei PF01 15x8
 
Probably my next set of wheels:

Enkei Wheels 2009 | PF01

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...pf01_large.jpg

15x8, +35 et. Hoping there's more caliper clearance than with 6UL, because Emilio's stuff doesn't fit what I want to do. Looks like there should be.

Cococarbine3 12-16-2009 01:47 AM

Good luck fitting them on a miata... unless they are going on a different car.

turotufas 12-16-2009 01:48 AM

Not feeling the center cap, but I like it.

I want to upgrade to a 15x8.

turotufas 12-16-2009 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by Cococarbine3 (Post 496152)
Good luck fitting them on a miata... unless they are going on a different car.

I'm sure they have various specs.

Cococarbine3 12-16-2009 01:52 AM

EDIT: nvm I'm blind.

SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 01:57 AM

15x8, +35 et, 4x100 right here.

SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 496153)
Not feeling the center cap, but I like it.

I never run center caps. Flat black hubs FTW.

jacob300zx 12-16-2009 03:29 AM

If a 15x7 weighs 12lbs than what will the 15x8 weigh? Less than 12.4? Not different/light/cheap enough to knock out the 6UL IMO

Savington 12-16-2009 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by SolarYellow510 (Post 496151)
Hoping there's more caliper clearance than with 6UL, because Emilio's stuff doesn't fit what I want to do. Looks like there should be.

I have 6-pot Wilwood Dynapros on my car right now and they fit just fine. What in god's name are you trying to stuff under your car?

Lazy_g 12-16-2009 08:58 AM

Nice looking wheels;)

Doppelgänger 12-16-2009 09:36 AM

I wonder if they will fit over my Brembozzzz :giggle:

SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 496171)
I have 6-pot Wilwood Dynapros on my car right now and they fit just fine. What in god's name are you trying to stuff under your car?

Number of pistons doesn't really affect wheel fit. Wilwood calipers tend to be pretty thin in section, with short pistons, thin pads and no dust boots. I'm planning an OE caliper with thicker pads, dust boots, and a thicker cross section for greater stiffness. Probably a 282mm rotor, a little smaller than 11.75 in., but thicker and lower-cost. It'll be cool.

Dig the hardtop, BTW.

jacob300zx 12-16-2009 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by SolarYellow510 (Post 496280)
Number of pistons doesn't really affect wheel fit. Wilwood calipers tend to be pretty thin in section, with short pistons, thin pads and no dust boots. I'm planning an OE caliper with thicker pads, dust boots, and a thicker cross section for greater stiffness. Probably a 282mm rotor, a little smaller than 11.75 in., but thicker and lower-cost. It'll be cool.

Dig the hardtop, BTW.

There is a thread on miata.net where Emillio goes over how they make all their light weight wheels out of a 13" blank and add to the actual rim to get a bigger size. I doubt that what you have planned will work with this wheel.

ScottFW 12-16-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 496166)
If a 15x7 weighs 12lbs than what will the 15x8 weigh? Less than 12.4? Not different/light/cheap enough to knock out the 6UL IMO

+1 and I love that they list the 15x8 weight as N/A. Hello, you're the manufacturer, go weigh one dammit, it's not like it's classified information. They specifically mention this one has room for big calipers, so at least they're paying enough attention to know what they needed to improve. I'd probably have bought a set of 10 lb 15x7 RPF1s for daily driving, if not for them limiting future brake upgrades. The new wheel looks good though, and if they keep pricing consistent with their current lineup I'd guess it would fall in the $180-220 range. They're just a little late to the party IMO and if I bought another set of wheels today it would probably be more 6ULs.

modernbeat 12-16-2009 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by jacob300zx (Post 496288)
There is a thread on miata.net where Emillio goes over how they make all their light weight wheels out of a 13" blank and add to the actual rim to get a bigger size. I doubt that what you have planned will work with this wheel.

That's for the 15" RPF1 wheels, not the PF01.

bbundy 12-16-2009 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by SolarYellow510 (Post 496280)
Number of pistons doesn't really affect wheel fit. Wilwood calipers tend to be pretty thin in section, with short pistons, thin pads and no dust boots. I'm planning an OE caliper with thicker pads, dust boots, and a thicker cross section for greater stiffness. Probably a 282mm rotor, a little smaller than 11.75 in., but thicker and lower-cost. It'll be cool.

Dig the hardtop, BTW.

I’m running willwood Dynapro calipers with 50% more pad thickness than FM/Goodwin dynalights also running 11.75" rotors versus 11”. They fit in 949wheels just fine. Ive bought cheap replacement front rotors for $39 that worked but I prefer the directional vane ones I get from Coleman racing which cost more.

That new wheel does look like it has really good brake clearance probably on par with Team Dynamics Pro Race 1's but If you really need it for that much brake you need a 9" wheel not an 8"

Bob

miatamania 12-16-2009 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cococarbine3 (Post 496152)
Good luck fitting them on a miata... unless they are going on a different car.

They show the 15x8 in 4x100...you smoke to much crack today or something?

Cococarbine3 12-16-2009 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 496618)
They show the 15x8 in 4x100...you smoke to much crack today or something?

My aforementioned blunder has already been conceded and rectified, and your post serves no other purpose than the accumulation of two additional counterproductive posts in this thread that people now have to browse. Unless your ulterior motive was to start an e-fight, with ambitions of increasing e-respect.

ecko 12-16-2009 10:55 PM

I agree they're really sexy. They better be cheaper than 6ULs though.

SolarYellow510 12-16-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 496421)
That new wheel does look like it has really good brake clearance probably on par with Team Dynamics Pro Race 1's but If you really need it for that much brake you need a 9" wheel not an 8"

Bob

My first setup with brakes will be my current wheels with whatever spacer I need, if any. I'll make a template and send it to my friends at Tire Rack to see what wheels they have that fit (which will include this one by then). Unfortunately, Emilio's template doesn't come close to clearing my caliper/rotor combo, so 9s are out.

My idea of the ultimate Miata brake setup would cost more than $2000, using parts from Wilwood, Hawk, PFC, Earl's, plus some custom bits I'd have to get made, and would be challenging for wheel fit. Everything less than that is a compromise for lower cost. But I believe that what I'm doing will have lower initial cost than a Wilwood kit, as well as lower replacement parts cost, and deliver better performance.


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