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Cspence 02-13-2010 03:11 PM

Hankook RS3 vs Toyo R1R
 
With everything else sorted, now I'm trying to decide what rubber to go with. With everything I've read, these two tires are pretty much the best street performance / Track tire you can get in the 225/45R15 size. Now, my question is which one do I buy and why? BTW this is a no flame zone :giggle:

Braineack 02-13-2010 03:40 PM

have they ever been directly compared? If it were me I'd get the one that's cheapest, but that's cause I'm cheap.

Laur3ns 02-13-2010 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 521937)
With everything else sorted, now I'm trying to decide what rubber to go with. With everything I've read, these two tires are pretty much the best street performance / Track tire you can get in the 225/45R15 size. Now, my question is which one do I buy and why? BTW this is a no flame zone :giggle:

R888 performs better than R1R on the track.

Cspence 02-13-2010 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 521957)
have they ever been directly compared? If it were me I'd get the one that's cheapest, but that's cause I'm cheap.

Don't think they've been compared....heres an old thread that compares the R1R and RS2 but I wonder how peoples opinions would be with the new RS3...https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t35691/

Price isn't really a huge deal with me. I'm more worried about having the more capable tire....if its a huge price difference obviously I would probably go with the cheaper tire but I think that they are within $15/tire of each other though


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 521962)
R888 performs better than R1R on the track.

At this point in time, my car will see the most use on the street with the occassional track day. If things change in the future I'd definitly get a deticated track tire.

Stein 02-13-2010 05:15 PM

I can't comment on the other, but I do love the RS3's for a DD tire. Supposed to be very capable for a track day tire. I only have about 3K miles on mine at about 200 whp but they hooked well ( I could roll on in first and bang second and they stuck) and still have the flames and logos in the tread so less than 1/16" wear, probably closer to 1/32".

SKMetalworks 02-13-2010 09:40 PM

I'm going to go with the RS3's just because I've read some things and they just ended up sounding like a better tire

Cspence 02-13-2010 10:15 PM

found some random 6ul r1r action while surfing google...

Google Image Result for http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/84/picture033y.jpg

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/1618/r1r3.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8339/r1r1.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1438/r1r2.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9092/picture035xlv.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1044/picture036zsl.jpg

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/1593/picture039xcj.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4615/picture042u.jpg

Stein 02-13-2010 11:35 PM

Must be on 15x9's that shit is stretched.

Cspence 02-13-2010 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 522085)
Must be on 15x9's that shit is stretched.

You sir are correct

K20 Mini 02-13-2010 11:55 PM

I am hoping to get a set of the rs3s soon, I have used the rs2s on a few of my cars and loved them. I am interested to see if there is any difference in them.

Stein 02-14-2010 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by K20 Mini (Post 522090)
I am hoping to get a set of the rs3s soon, I have used the rs2s on a few of my cars and loved them. I am interested to see if there is any difference in them.

From what I have read by past RS2 users is that they are very happy with the improvements.

tyson87 02-14-2010 08:26 AM

I just put rs3s on my car in the rear. Deft slot of grip. They are quiet too. Paid 125 shipped for one.

pdexta 02-14-2010 08:56 AM

When I got my R1R's they gripped really well. I had no traction issues at all from 1st gear. As they've worn they've lost a lot of that. They're about a year old now, something around 4000 miles on them, I'm making less power than I was and I can spin well into 3rd gear. Still have thread left but will probably need replacing in another 2000 miles or so. I've got some pretty decent camber wear and drive like a jackass so I'm sure the average life expectancy would be a good bit longer than that. Not sure how they would perform against RS3's, but I'll be going with whichever is cheaper next time I buy.

Midtenn 02-14-2010 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 522086)
You sir are correct

That's not stretched. This is stretched:

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog...re-560x418.png

240_to_miata 02-14-2010 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 522065)
found some random 6ul r1r action while surfing google...

That is my friend adrian.

Here is more from his facebook:

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs009...._6438453_n.jpg

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs009...._1153523_n.jpg

UCONN CAR SHOW FTW:
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs009...._6888793_n.jpg

AFTER ONLY ONE DAY AT AUTOX
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs009...._5681205_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._3995673_n.jpg

Braineack 02-14-2010 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 522085)
Must be on 15x9's that shit is stretched.

still, thats barely a stretch. sidewalls are flat.


what size 615s are those?

Rennkafer 02-14-2010 12:40 PM

It looks about the same stretch as the 225/45 RS3's on my 9's. When you set them flat on the ground the rim hits first but just barely, not a big stretch. And the RT-615's I'd guess are 205/50's, stack height looks about the same as the set of RT-215's that came off my car compared to the 225's.

Cspence 02-14-2010 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Midtenn (Post 522178)
That's not stretched. This is stretched:

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog...re-560x418.png

I ment he was correct in saying it was a 15x9....not that it was stretched


240 to Miata, hows your friend like the R1R's?

Braineack 02-14-2010 01:21 PM

I've driven a miata with the R1R, they are hard to break loose even with adsurb flow parts making 275rwhp.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...2/DSC_0086.JPG

Cspence 02-14-2010 01:26 PM

I've been trying to research as much as possible, reading reviews, opinions, and articals and it seems they are both equal tires for the most part. I think I may end up going with the R1R for the mere fact that the tread looks sick....stupid I know, but there is nothing else that would make me choose one over the other at this point ($15/tire isn't a biggie to me).

http://www.ityre.com/i/tyre/20863.jpg http://image.modified.com/f/tech/mod...tread_view.jpg


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