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Chiburbian 01-28-2017 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by 01Romanss (Post 1389396)
Not trying to hijack this thread but..... My car makes 215 wheel torque. Bought car recently and believe it has FM Stage 1. Throw out bearing squeals a lot but clutch doesn't slip. About to replace whole assembly with either FM Stage 1 or 949 racing clutch kit. Afraid the 949 might be too weak for my power.

You sure it's the throwout bearing? The shift fork tends to squeak against the clutch master cylinder rod. A dollop of thick grease is said to fix it. I have verified that the squeaking I hear is that and NOT the throwout bearing in my car.

Ivan 01-29-2017 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chiburbian (Post 1389405)
You sure it's the throwout bearing? The shift fork tends to squeak against the clutch master cylinder rod. A dollop of thick grease is said to fix it. I have verified that the squeaking I hear is that and NOT the throwout bearing in my car.

My FM2 clutch also squeaked until I added some grease on to the slave cylinder rod. Otherwise, I have the FM2 clutch in my daily and my only complaint is that its a little hard to slip at lower rpm without some chatter.

01Romanss 01-29-2017 07:35 AM

Thanks for the input. I'll check it out. It would be great if that is the problem. However, the sound I hear is the high frequency whirring and squeaking sound as I rest my foot on the pedal and just begin to push the pedal in. It sounds and feels like the throw out bearing making contact with metal. The previous owner tracked the car and I believe the bearing had a lot of work to do.

Thanks, Dan

nbfather 01-30-2017 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1381336)
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Just throwing it out there that the mean torque of a 300wtq engine is a long way from the momentary torque of the same engine. It appears to easily be twice as much. A larger flywheel lowers the peak and raises the valley, evening the energy out. A flywheel is an energy capturing and releasing device, an energy storage device. Would you want over 600ft lbs of force on a couple of gears in the transmission at one instantaneous moment if you were trying to protect it, or perhaps instead smoothing it a bit? It depends on how much you enjoy the lightweight flywheel's responsiveness versus exchanging transmissions, I guess.

Miata noob and 4 cylinder noob in general here!
Literally just washed the grease off my hands from installing a FM clutch/flywheel on my son's car.....
The stock engine rotating mass plus the clutch/flywheel is what...nearing 80ish pounds?
So you are saying the by installing the 8.7 pound lighter flywheel I have increases peak torque (spike) to the transmission by 50 foot pounds on a 300hp engine?
Feeling like a dumbass after reading this....

sixshooter 01-30-2017 10:38 AM

I'm not saying anything much, just posting data and info found on the interwebbez.

phocup 02-02-2017 01:50 PM

Great read, and very timely for me.

Though sadly it seems there's no good ( oem feel / streetable & available for current purchase ) clutch option to run a moderately boosted 1.8 with a 1.6 clutch setup.

nbfather 02-02-2017 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by phocup (Post 1390310)
Great read, and very timely for me.

Though sadly it seems there's no good ( oem feel / streetable & available for current purchase ) clutch option to run a moderately boosted 1.8 with a 1.6 clutch setup.

I just installed the FM level 2 clutch with the 10 pound flywheel (the happy meal).
To me it feels better than stock with a firm pedal and a shorter, faster, engagement. It rev matches 10X better, and upshifts are much faster and are way less effort for the syncros. Took me about 5 minues to get used to.
Zero chatter.
Not bad for a clutch that can and does live behind a 450hp car!

They also make a level one clutch that is fine for most sub 325-350hp goals.
I am sure that clutch would make anybody happy.

phocup 02-02-2017 05:07 PM

That's a 1.8 clutch. I'm hoping to keep the smaller 1.6 size because (a) I just got a shiny new Fidanza in not more than 100 miles ago and (b) lower MOI for autox.
949 just got back to me actually. They have a new shipment of clutches coming .. no idea when though. LOL.

nbfather 02-02-2017 07:47 PM

If you get the clutch and flywheel you can use whatever you want...if you want the flywheel that is

djcarr 04-22-2017 10:55 AM

Anybody got an opinion on FX Racing clutches from Apex Clutch? Their prices seem too cheap.

shuiend 04-23-2017 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by djcarr (Post 1407987)
Anybody got an opinion on FX Racing clutches from Apex Clutch? Their prices seem too cheap.

Yeah I have an opinion. It is don't waste your time or money. If the clutch is not from 949 Racing, ACT, or FM it is not what you want to buy.

rleete 04-23-2017 12:26 PM

^ He's posted it before, and it still remains good, solid advice. You ignore it at your own peril.


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