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Alright, well my quest for 600 whp in my B6 is in the works...I know we do not have many options when it comes to this, but I want to see what others come up with.

Trans options:
Just keep stock 5 speed and see how long it lasts
6 Speed
6 Speed with cyro'd gears
FD Turbo II Trans
Quaife Trans

Rear end options
Keep my cusco 1.2 way LSD stock axles
Above plus custom DSS axles
8.8 rear end

If anyone has anything else to add, and what I should do, other combos that might work? I want to keep it cost down but with reliability in mind. For the last options in both aspects it will be close to $6,000 w/o labor which is ridiculous. The car is mostly driven on the street, the car will run 225/50/15 MT Drag Radials daily at this power level, and possibly 26" tall slicks at the drag strip.
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I know Bill Wilner @MiataRoadster.com has a pretty sweet, never used, FC TII setup, I know because a friend was interested in it but we couldn't get it shipped due to the substantial weight/dimensions (we are in Greece). Drop him an email.
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The “into to megasquirt thread” mentions that the MS3 basic has 5 inputs with built in pull up resistors - and I was just wondering why it would have so many, while the MS3Pro PnP has just 2 (with no pull ups?)
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seeex hund?

baller but says only fow hundre....
http://ppgearbox.com.au/page.asp?par...7&productid=12
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I know Bill Wilner @MiataRoadster.com has a pretty sweet, never used, FC TII setup, I know because a friend was interested in it but we couldn't get it shipped due to the substantial weight/dimensions (we are in Greece). Drop him an email.
Thanks for the heads up! I will drop him an email
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seeex hund?

baller but says only fow hundre....
http://ppgearbox.com.au/page.asp?par...7&productid=12
lol I cannot afford 3 sets, and they're expensive as hell I can only assume plus only rated for 400 hp.
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I'm absolutely amazed your stock 5 speed is still intact. When you pull it you need to gold plate it and have it shown off in some museum

On a serious note, I think quaife with custom gearing would be your best bet. Contact Eliminator, he has a custom box in his car and very close to 600whp as well. According to his thread he has no problems getting traction due to the custom gearing being so long.
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I know, my trans is a champ. I did have it completely rebuilt before I went turbo 4 years ago, I am sure that has something to do with it lasting so long.
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I'd do TII trans on a budget, FM trans if not Also investigate using the T5's and adapter popular with the V8 guys.
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he's got a crazy *** setup with tons of money invested and lots of power and the thing to cheap out on will the the transmission? **** the t2 trans.

you need straight cut s0n
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lol Quaife isn't straight cut though, unfortunately. How did that 800 hp Miata guy mount that automatic to his 1.8????? That guy needs to start posting here.
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You want an auto?

My my dick just went limp
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No! I do not, however, I would like to explore something like the T56 mounted to my B6...He he is running a TH400 trans or w.e the hell he's running I don't see why I cannot run a T56.
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I can pick up a complete Turbo II Trans with adapters for under 600 bucks! Umm...that with a 1.8 rear with custom DSS axles that will support 800 hp might be an option.

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fwiw a t56 used is somewhere in the 2000 range.
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not unless you like being ripped off. Ive seen them for 1k without much searching.
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Originally Posted by Reverant View Post
I know Bill Wilner @MiataRoadster.com has a pretty sweet, never used, FC TII setup, I know because a friend was interested in it but we couldn't get it shipped due to the substantial weight/dimensions (we are in Greece). Drop him an email.
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Originally Posted by uavjeep View Post
fwiw a t56 used is somewhere in the 2000 range.
If he can rebuild one, they can be had for 500 as a "core". I have a 700 dollar (with bellhousing and shifter) "core" in my car right now till I get a day to pull it down, stick a new 2nd gear synchro and billet keys in it, and put it back in.

But yes, a T56 with some decent parts in it can take a beating.

Someone needs to fab up an adapter plate for them.
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Bill has a unused FC rear end, not transmission. However, he makes the adapter plates and the whole stabang for 400 bucks. You can get Turbo II transmissions for about 170-200 bucks off the rx7 forums.

I would love to put a T56 transmission in my car, but that's uncharted grounds and I am not sure I am ready to undertake that.
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Originally Posted by jtothawhat View Post
Bill has a unused FC rear end, not transmission.
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Originally Posted by jtothawhat View Post
Alright, well my quest for 600 whp in my B6 is in the works...I know we do not have many options when it comes to this, but I want to see what others come up with.

Trans options:
Just keep stock 5 speed and see how long it lasts
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Rear end options
Keep my cusco 1.2 way LSD stock axles
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If anyone has anything else to add, and what I should do, other combos that might work? I want to keep it cost down but with reliability in mind. For the last options in both aspects it will be close to $6,000 w/o labor which is ridiculous. The car is mostly driven on the street, the car will run 225/50/15 MT Drag Radials daily at this power level, and possibly 26" tall slicks at the drag strip.
What will you be doing with the car...dedicated for dragging? Thanks.
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