Besides that time that you did.

We're not taking issue with you saying there are other options better than the Konis. The issue we have is the examples you used.

I also listed more then just those two brands... 🙄 Just saying. Not my fault if someone read JUST A PORTION of what I said and chooses to take my word for it. I mean I am just another random guy on the internet with opinions about stuff. 🤦🏼 And saying something "Is nicer" isn't the same as saying "THIS is better". Again, the issue seems to lie in the interpretation.

:rofl: umad bro?:dealwithit:

what is there to be mad about? Did I miss something?

I love this bar.

TIL that "nicer" isn't better.


Still waiting on all those additional features that the milquetoast mass-produced-with-no-platform-specific-R&D coilovers offer over the other options in the ~$1500 arena.

All i really want to know is which ones have the best dampening and handle like they're on rails.

I only want the moistest of train tracks.

ive already listed what I considered additional features over the GC units multiple times. Are you incableable of reading or just splitting hairs in an attempt to be obnoxious?

Wait a second...you're trying draw distinctions between "nicer" and "better" and he's splitting hairs?

Well admittedly, i'm getting confused, because first Eibachs were basic, but now they're fine. Then these other things you mentioned were nicer, but not better.

The only thing that's standing out is that you prefer adjustable body shocks, which has been proven time and time again on these platforms to be inferior, so that's not valid, either.

Am i missing anything?

Clearly, you're missing the fact that it's simply my opinion. Other people shared theirs and I shared mine. I said the Eibachs are "cookie cutter" seeing that it had already been mentioned elsewhere that the GC's while being made from quality components are basically the same thing as what you've been able to build yourself.

Also missing the fact that throughout my replies I mention more then just BC and FA as brands with products in that price point. You also chose to reference Taiwanese/Chinese in reference to the products origin. Not everything from Taiwan/China is trash (even though A LOT are).
BC-Taiwanese- ISO9001 / TUV compliant.
FA-Taiwanese-ISO9002 compliant, steel body and shaft, billet and forged external components, dyno tested with proof of dyno results shipped with your coilovers. And can be built to pretty much whatever specifications you ask for.
MCA-Australian. Ohlins-Swedish. TEIN-Japan. HKS-Japan. Bilstein- Germany. V-MAXX- Netherlands

You also said I was "championing" them, when I'm not defending any of the products I mentioned at all. I am however telling you why " I " have the opinion i do. I never knew trying to have an intelligent conversation about a product of any sort was championing for them. But at the same time this has turned from an "Is it worth it" thread into you riding my dick about what and why my opinion is what it is, due to it not being the same opinion as yours.

:rofl: :rofl:

Easy there chuckles, info was found on their own website.... you got anything saying they are made somewhere else?

V-Maxx the company, is in the Netherlands, the shocks are made in China.

well now...
:likecat:

okay, cool. But where'd you find the info? Considering that I said "got anything saying they're made elsewhere".One wrong out of the list I gave, still doesn't change the premise to my statement as a whole on the topic that not everything from China (or Asian countries for that matter) is an inferior product. 🙄

You forget I'm in the business of selling car parts. I know the exact factory where they come from. I have received samples from them through an agent that was desperately trying to get me to look at their stuff. I offer no commentary, statement or opinion on your previous posts. I was simply correcting you on the country of origin.

As you were.

can't forget what I didn't know. (Browsing this via phone doesn't have all the same icons and badging to make it obvious when corresponding with a vendor) 😅 And don't worry, no offense was taken.

Show me where the opinion is in the bulleted list in your first post. Literally everything in that first post is factually flawed. It's not a difference of opinion, it's a fact.

You've taken the hazing pretty well, but I still disagree with your stated facts of why these coilovers are not superior to the others you mentioned. The reasons they are inferior to better quality products like Xidas is due to their dated design and tendency to run hot, along with lack of features and adjustability for the price -- too much eye candy, too little substance. But the one thing they DO have over comparably price Chinese coilovers is quality. Those Konis will last a long, long time.

Perhaps we can stop talking in circles now.