Leaving Front sway bar off
 

Had a shop fab up my intercooler kit and they removed the sway bar to do so. Now their saying they cant get it back on unless we have them turn it around and fab it up backwards, but they want to charge us 200 to do so. Question becomes, do i just leave it off?

That's ghetto as fuck. Its not your fault they can't fabricate piping. They need to get a fucking clue and or give you money back. "Hey dude, I screwed something up on your car because I'm a fucking dip-shit retard and now I need you to give me more money to fix what I already fucked up."

No, you must have a front sway bar or you're proper fucked.

fucktards:slap:

they should "re-fab"

We fabbed up the intercooler and now the engine doesn't fit. It'll be another $5000 for us to custom mount the engine.

You wouldn't possibly accept that. Why accept the other. It's the same principle, just a matter of degrees.

its sooooo fucking easy to run the inercooler pipes

They're retarded.
Tell them to fix it.

Also, how the fuck are going to remount the sway bar?
I could see how you could drop it down a little but besides that...

They say that to redo the intercooler system to fit the sway bar they have to drop it another 1-2 inches which will put it below my bumper and likely to get taken out :/

is this on a NA or an NB

Na

Dude, there are like a thousand guys who have ghetto fabbed their intercooler setups, at home DIY'ers with nothing more than some random bends, straights, couplers, clamps and a saw... on this forum.

For a shop to say they "can't" get it to fit is stupid. What size intercooler? Is this some crazy unheard of setup?

I'm betting they can't get it to fit between the radiator and the swaybar to come up and meet the intake. They should've known better. Take a turn at medium speed w/o a front bar and you'll swear you were on ice. It's dangerous.

Don't stand for it OP!

This is why I just dont trust shops anymore with only a few exceptions.

they seemed great at first, and i was all gun ho, then things started to slow down and things started to be "forgotten" and then i had to babysit them for 4 hours before the tuner showed up just to find out that i have no front sway bar, the wide band wasnt hooked up properly, i have no fuel, and the aem is not reading my MAP sensor or my TPS.

Small claims court and tow the car elsewhere before they thrash it any further.

that's bull get them to re-do it or get your money back and go elsewhere

Bullshit. You wouldn't beleive how angry shit like this makes me and its not even my car. Tell them to fix that shit or to give you your fucking money back.

Get your car out of there now, get your money back. Any idiot can fab an intercooler and specially a shop, I don't understand how your not mad I woulda rip them a new asshole.

+1

Fix it or give your money back, that is their choices as far as I can think. Next time you see civics and neons with front mount intakes and whitsle tips with street glow stickers on top of the un painted body kits, don't take your car there.

Run!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ride Revolution?

10-4

Going in tomorrow to pull her, gonna have a friend finish her up and fix the intercooler piping, set up a time with the tuner on monday, hopefully we'll have her running soon.

Get your money back, they didn't do their job.

Tell them to go Fab your intercooler the right way. You know with the swaybar where it was meant to be.

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...6+_Medium_.JPG

yeah my sway bar is in the way too. It goes right through my IC pipe...oh wait, I forgot about depth.

If you want something done right...

Time to learn to do this type of stuff yourself, OP. I bet getting the tools (a saw, a file, etc.) is either break-even or cheaper than paying a shop's labor rate. I even bought a fancy mitre saw and still only spent around $100 on tools (for the intercooler fab job, anyway). This forum is a great resource for DIYers, there's no reason to go to a shop unless they have equipment you need and it wouldn't be feasible for you to buy said equipment (a tire changer, wheel balancer, alignment rack, and for some, a welder).

my $0.02

When I did my last Ic project I got a 3" cutting wheel from HF for like 30 bucks and nailed a good straight 2X4 to a pallet. I then pushed the 2.5 pipe against that 'jig' to hold it steady and rotated the pipe to make somewhat clean cuts. A few moments with a die-grinder and it was decent enough for welding. I used a sharpie to mark all the parts that were going to be welded (I ended up with 4 welds and the BOV IIRC) and took it all to a good welder. He had no trouble with it. The welding was like 80 bucks. and the setup was exactly what I wanted.

Getting your cash back would be great, but I think your right to take it somewhere else rather than let them do anything else on your car. If they were capable of doing a competent job they would have the first time. Give those retards another crack at it and you will probably be unable to close the hood or something.

We went with the shop not because we cant do the work, but because neither I nor my bf had time, we pulled the motor and tranni and did a few other things, but then it sat for 4 months and i wanted my car running so we turned to the shop.

Well you see what happens when you give up and turn to a "shop."

:cry: yes lol

Make sure when you go, you ask them what made them think taking out the front sway bar was a good idea. Seriously.

I made IC pipes myself having just an assortment of pipes, couplers, clamps, and a saw. If a shop cant handle "fabbing" up IC pipes, they should be pretty damn embarrassed.

I would tell them you want money back. Pull the car first though, this way they wont intentionally fuck more things up just out of spite.

Sorry to hear about the bad shop experience. This is also another reason why I like to DIY. :bigtu:

LoL.... shop... LoL.


Then again, I've seen some marvels in design from some of the "big name" Miata turbo kit peoples (/sarcasm)

UPDATE: took the miata to a fabricator, he said the easiest way to do things is mount the sway bar backwards and use hym joints. Essentially making the sway bar more effective. Fuel is still not fixed, and neither is wide band.

Uhh no :facepalm:

The sway bar mount on the passanger side is busted anyways and the bushings are done. It'll be mounted a 1/2inch lower than stock.

My vote is to fix the mount and leave the sway bar in it's intended spot. :2cents:

So now that's 2 shops that want to change the sway bar setup in order to route IC pipes? :facepalm:

Leave the damn sway bar how its supposed to be and find someone that has a HS education that can fab up some IC pipes for christ sake! :vash:

And/or a green card

If turning around the sway bar was more effective everyone would be doing it. Of course maybe this is an AH HA moment. These two shops may now prove every car made in the last 40 years has been running the sway bar the wrong way!

Thousands of Miatas have intercoolers with the sway bar in properly. Yours is the first that needs the sway bar reversed.

Did the first shop mount the IC in such a way that you have to move the bar? As in, the outlet is 1 inch from it or something?

What diameter is the IC piping? Got any pics? I'd love to see the IC piping..

Needz picturez ...

although we can generalize, we can't accurately call out the epic fail of these guys without teh picturez

Jesus christ, dude. Find a fabricator that isn't legally retarded. Please. You can seriously fab IC pipes with a $95 eBay kit and a hacksaw. It is absolutely stunning how shitty some of these "shops" are.

I know this is a Miata site and all, but between svtKATE and "my bf" I think we can safely assume this isn't a "dude".....at least I hope.

"Dude" doesn't imply male, it's a race.

LOL

Sucks to hear about your problem but at this point I would not let the shop touch the car. Have you shown them pictures of a already installed/working intercooler setup on a NA. Not that you should have to but at this point well yeah..... Good luck

I'm still trying to figure out how the sway bar is in the way.

It sounds to me like the sway-bar is a blockage that needs to be blasted out of the way with a wad of c-notes. I had a similar problem with turbo-parts where there was a hole in the car and it was leaking hundreds out...so I had to jam a few thousand dollars in the hole to stop the leak. Its held up well since I plugged the leak with a wad of cash.

Whats so complicated about that? You have to mount the IC to lower control arms so that it cools well in off-camber corners, unless its setup for drag, in which case you mount it to the block. Use some rubber bushings if you are worried about vibration.

Well, we are "a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics" so apparently Miataturbo.net is a race...

I lol'd.. several times.

To the OP, pleasssssssssse take the car to a competent shop or find the time to do the work yourself. The two shops you've had it at so far quite honestly suck... a lot.

that definition makes me a jew.

SVTKate: Mind if i ask what shops you've went to? Personally, i'd recommend against UMS tuning, if you were to look out of your local area (Tempe). Just want to know who around here to avoid, thank you.

Collective racing- great if you want a 11-12 second honda, not best for miatas, I think mines the 3rd one they've ever done, but they have been really good on pricing and working with me to get things fixed properly, you kinda have to babysit them but they're good guys. Scott the owner, has hooked me up with some really good pricing, and has paid to have my intercooler setup fixed and is trying VERY HARD to make sure i leave there happy. Again, great if you want to mod a honda, probably not a miata.

There's a shop further down 22nd with like 4 miatas sitting out front. Probably a better choice on miata mods, ill check out the name of it next time i pass and maybe go talk to them.

TRD racing did my inter-cooler setup, sick setup, sick welds, but didn't take into consideration a sway bar [not really his fault] and instead of rerouting the inter-cooler setup wants to mount sway bar backwards. Probably best if you want a sick pre-runner/trophy truck setup. Again, probably not best for miatas.

And tuning is Steve Cole, the only one I would trust to tune an AEM. He works for AEM and is a dealer. He charged me $500, for both base tune[includes fixing all the little bugs and electrical gremlins with the AEM] and full tune, and any major mods he'll re-tune for $100, any minor ones he does for free.

Lessons learned, I'm young what can i say... next time I'll either do it myself or do ALOT more research into finding a shop that does the work I need and has done it many times before.

^ most Hondas dont have sway bars...

I think this is why it was so easily overlooked. It got lost in a pile of parts, and I don't think they realized what those 4 holes were for lol.

The shit is nothing to do with Honda tuning. This issue has everything to do with them making stupid mistakes, them telling you to pay more, and you doing it. You're the fucking retard.

hey now, no need for the language lol, i aint payin shit to have them fix it, they're covering it all. I just paid the original amount to have the work done, it wasn't done properly so now they're fixing it at their cost.

you must be new here :giggle:

You need to tone down the motherfucking disrespect and try that again. I shared a block with Tyson for some bullshit assault charges a few years ago and I didn't get raped or wrecked and I'm sure as fuck not going to tolerate garbage like "ain't" and "payin" from some power-bottom on my forum. I highly suggest you watch the way you type to me on this forum and afford me and others significantly more respect.

:bowrofl: yes masta



:laugh:

masta?