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Old 03-31-2009, 02:04 AM   #21
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Unfortunately, the last time I checked his prices, they were quite a bit more than the typical "budget" coilover. I enjoy his bumpstops which I'm currently running. I'm feeling experimental almost, willing to try some I've seen much of before.

I kind of like the pink D2 coilovers!
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I dissagree with that statement. There was a fella in a Subaru Legacy Outback Sport wagon who ran Megans and was competitive nationally in autocross, same fella also happened to be a Subaru Master Mechanic.

Even speaking to one of the workers at Gran Turismo East, a pretty well respected suspension tuning place down, had nothing but good things to say about them.
When I was big into modding my '04 Forester XT, another local guy I used to wrench with put in the Megans in his '04 XT. They were very harsh on the street and made all sorts of noise daily driving. The springs were definitely too stiff for the shocks. There was so much jounce it felt like the shocks weren't doing any work. My car with JDM STI takeoff stock springs and shocks rode much better.

While not a fair comparison, my Miata has a FCM coilover setup. You can really tell when the springs are matched to the shocks on the street. Bumps and dips are swallowed up and the car just doesn't seem to bounce over them as much.

No track experience on either though. Hell I don't even have driving experience in my Miata in over a year.

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When I was big into modding my '04 Forester XT, another local guy I used to wrench with put in the Megans in his '04 XT. They were very harsh on the street and made all sorts of noise daily driving. The springs were definitely too stiff for the shocks. There was so much jounce it felt like the shocks weren't doing any work. My car with JDM STI takeoff stock springs and shocks rode much better.

While not a fair comparison, my Miata has a FCM coilover setup. You can really tell when the springs are matched to the shocks on the street. Bumps and dips are swallowed up and the car just doesn't seem to bounce over them as much.

No track experience on either though. Hell I don't even have driving experience in my Miata in over a year.

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It's funny, I swear there must be multiple spring rates on Megans. That sounds much more like the ride of my friends 240. On my RS they were pretty smooth, better than the AGX w/GC combo I had prior to them.

I talked to guy I sold them too and he also told me they seem smoother and less harsh than others he had ridden in.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:00 PM   #24
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Along the same lines, same cost, maybe even came out of the same factory (duno?)...are K-sports.

Koni Race- $1000. Not including perches, springs, or top hats.

Ksport/Megan- $900 SHIPPED ebay price. Includes monotube shocks, springs, top hats, and has adjustable shock body length (something konis don't have)...

OK, so the shock dyno says they suck. I'm still considering them as a hold-me-over until I can get some 3012s. They HAVE to be better than my AGX/Pro-kit. AGXs are possibly the worst shocks I've run in my life...
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:19 PM   #25
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Comparing Koni Races to Megans/Dsport/VMaxxxxxxx/Etc is like comparing gay **** to an evening of sex with two supermodels of your choice.
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Old 04-03-2009, 05:30 PM   #26
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Fair enough, but I'll bet that $800-$1000 difference when it's all said and done means a WHOLE lot more to me than it does to you. "Gay ****" is all I can afford just yet I don't think anyone here is trying to say they are better or even as good. Just passable...
Of course, *if* I get a set of megan/ksport/BC/D2/whatever coilovers I could prove myself wrong.

FYI- yes, I've run different suspension setups on different cars. I've driven a miata on koni race with 700/400 at an autocross a few times. I ran konis on my prosolo championship car. I only have AGXs right now because I needed something uber-cheap used to get me by...and no, I've never ridden in or driven a car on any of the cheap setups... except the BC racing coilovers on a miata. That car had pretty dead rear V710s, but on the fairly smooth lot I enjoyed the car a lot. I didn't drive it on the street, so no clue there.
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:36 PM   #27
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Anyone have any experience with partwerks.net? They've got the koni Race shocks for $218 and free shipping. Sports are $130. By far the best prices I've seen on the race version. For races figure $900 + ebay perches and Qa1 springs and you have an $1100 high end set up. Sports you could do a whole package for $700!
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$218 is a smoking deal for Races.
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^^^ Who the **** are you? show knowledge or repent, you wiper of other peoples' bottoms.
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stfu immediately or it will be the last time you ever **** me off. Final warning.
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koni races for that cheap? im skeptic of it. are they a good match up for the JIC spring rates or better for tein spring rates.

i think JIC is 506/450 and tein is 392/336
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Neither. Races are set up for rates in the 450-1100+ range. I run 700/450 and it's awesome. If you need a more supple ride for the mornings after your life partner "loves" you too hard, or you've spent all your money on lube to prevent the aforementioned mornings, you could do 550/350 rates and only use Race shocks in the front.
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i dont think i need anything that high for the street though. i'd have to dodge every pothole which i try to do already, but its pretty hard
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My 700/450 (12.5/8) car rides better on the street than a 9/6 Tein Flex car.
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koni races for that cheap? im skeptic of it.
Actually Summit has them for $218 now too. Koni is running a spring 15% off sale right now. Several vendors have dropped the prices from the usual 250-280 each.

As I'm half-a-poof, I'm thinking very seriously about the race front, sport rear combo. Saves a couple hundred, more suspension travel and more forgiving ride for my baby soft heiney.

What length springs do you use on the Koni's? Worth bothering with a threaded perch or is the stock mount ok? Sorry for the thread jack. Just trying to get my suspension done and over with.

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Neither. Races are set up for rates in the 450-1100+ range. I run 700/450 and it's awesome. If you need a more supple ride for the mornings after your life partner "loves" you too hard, or you've spent all your money on lube to prevent the aforementioned mornings, you could do 550/350 rates and only use Race shocks in the front.
**** you and your spring rate horse-****. Lots of people including nation champs go to the softer rates. Bitch.
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its okay. thread jack away as long as it stays suspension related. more questions means i get to learn more.

i dont know jack **** about anything yet. this is the first car i have started to mod.
suspension is a big unknown to me. if i go koni races i will still be undecided about what springs to use, if i should go adjustable perch or not, what bushings, and if i need shock bumps to use with FCM mounts.
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**** you and your spring rate horse-****. Lots of people including nation champs go to the softer rates. Bitch.
3/4 fastest CA track miatas are on 12.5/8, 12/7 and 12/7. The 4th guy is on 9/7 or 10/7, IIRC. Soft rates are for autocrossers with aforementioned life partner issues.
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Soft rates are for autocrossers with aforementioned life partner issues.
I like to think that the Miata community is non-disriminating and focused on simply getting the most out of their cars. So please lay off hustler. His lifestyle choices, like his spring choices, are his to make.


I run Tein S-Techs, because well, my wife is a little rough with the strap-on sometimes.
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Soft rates are for autocrossers
Have you seen the sprint rates the fast CSP and ST Miatas are running? 700/450 or stiffer and I haven't heard anyone going to softer rates. More CSP autocross Miatas see higher lateral G than track Miatas - not many track guys are running the 275 Hoosier A6 or wider ...
225 Hoosier A6 has more grip than similar NT-01 and 275 Hoosier A6 has much more grip than the NT-1. Now imagine sub 2000lbs car on those tires ...

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