Metal salad in my 5-speed, MLV and sound.
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So, driving around tuning fuel, gearbox goes boom.
For now I am dropping in a replacement 5-speed. Is there any difference in the early 1.6, early 1.8 of later 1.8 gearboxes? Wasn't expecting it to blow this soon... |
ouch..
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Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 582570)
Is there any difference in the early 1.6, early 1.8 of later 1.8 gearboxes?
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god damn it....and here I'm aiming for mid 300's very soon:facepalm:
regarding 6 speeds: I'm pretty sure they are capable of holding a bit more than the 5 sp, simply due to the fact that the gears are shorter and closer, as well as having a more rigid bellhousing allowing for less flex, and less torque load going from gear to gear. just my uneducated guess. |
I was in 3rd or 4th, can't remember actually.
Who is running the Quaife gearset? The wide ratio w/my 4.1 Torsen is tempting. But only if it will never break. |
try it and see:D
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Would you pay more to get a 15.000mi NB 5spd over any old 100.000m NA box?
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Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 582586)
Would you pay more to get a 15.000mi NB 5spd over any old 100.000m NA box?
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What's the write-up for this R&R?
- Drain gearbox - Remove speedo cable and wiring clips - Unbolt PPF and move it to the side - Unbolt drive shaft and move aside - Tilt engine slightly backwards - Unbolt range of 14 and 17mm bolts, including starter - Remove? Missing something? |
Big exhaust? Unbolt downpipe and remove.
My 6-spd wont come out with the 3" downpipe in place. |
Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 582627)
What's the write-up for this R&R?
- Drain gearbox - Remove speedo cable and wiring clips - Unbolt PPF and move it to the side - Unbolt drive shaft and move aside - Tilt engine slightly backwards - Unbolt range of 14 and 17mm bolts, including starter - Remove? Missing something? |
taking it out is cake. aligning the input shaft when putting it back on is a bitch.
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- Lift car up HIGH
- Remove shifter as a whole - Remove cat back - Drain gearbox - Remove speedo cable and wiring clips - Unbolt PPF and move it to the side - Unbolt drive shaft and move aside - Tilt engine slightly backwards - Unbolt range of 14 and 17mm bolts, including starter - Remove? |
disconnect shifter
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Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 582580)
Who is running the Quaife gearset?
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buy Bell Housing from there "S-RWD W or T bellhousing" buy W58 supra tranny buy 3SGTE adapter plate from me enlarge your tunnel, make some mounts and a custom driveshaft profit? |
Originally Posted by rccote
(Post 582646)
Cue Huster's millionth anti Quaife tirade.
I told them to eat my shit on toast and Gary Peloquin chimed in and cut me a deal on his differentaial that was fine in my car and my friend's 900whp car. I wish he'd made differentials for us...time for me to call. It will be a cold day in hell before I give Quaife a god damn red cent. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 582705)
Quaife sucks because I bought a $900 differential from them, had a pro install it for $500...then one of the first times I ran the car on the freeway in 4th gear at 480whp the diff's case broke. I called quaife and those ******s told me they would only warranty the internal gears, not the case and they'd sell me another one at a reduced priced.
I told them to eat my shit on toast and Gary Peloquin chimed in and cut me a deal on his differentaial that was fine in my car and my friend's 900whp car. I wish he'd made differentials for us...time for me to call. It will be a cold day in hell before I give Quaife a god damn red cent. Peloquin > Quaife. I have never heard one bad thing about Peloquin and they are cheaper with a better warranty! |
Originally Posted by K20 Mini
(Post 582799)
Peloquin > Quaife. I have never heard one bad thing about Peloquin and they are cheaper with a better warranty!
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Toasted gearboxes are never fun. My secondary shaft broke in half on my first kill.
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
(Post 582573)
No, and apparently there's no difference between the 5spds and a 6spd either, just an extra gear. You need to convert to an OEM transmission engineered and spec'd for the kind of torque you're putting down.
I don’t know for sure why but the 6 speed in my mind is proven to be stronger. I have broken seven 5 speeds with 3 different failure modes trying to put more than 350 hp through them. The 6 speed has lasted 10 times longer so far. Oh, and there is actually 3 differences in the 5 speeds but none of the changes really effects strengh or function much. they upgraded a syncro once in the series and later changed the shift turrnet on the 5 speeds over the years. Bob |
Put my name on a 2000 NB 5-speed box with 15.000mi.
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So, the old gear salad bowl is out. I'd better remove the downpipe too when I get the new box in. Took about 3 hours working on my own. Not too bad. The fact that the car has been apart before helps.
I can't see how I would get a new box in by myself and as I've lots of other (real) work to do, I'm going to have it done. |
Its not to bad, paying a buddy in beer to help you wiggle the input shaft back in would be a wise investment.
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Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 583382)
So, the old gear salad bowl is out. I'd better remove the downpipe too when I get the new box in. Took about 3 hours working on my own. Not too bad. The fact that the car has been apart before helps.
I can't see how I would get a new box in by myself and as I've lots of other (real) work to do, I'm going to have it done. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 582705)
I told them to eat my shit on toast
-Flounder:noob: |
If you're doing it yourself seriously consider using rope through the shifter area to keep the tail end of the trans up so all you have to do is handle the bellhousing area. Always makes putting it back in worlds easier for me.
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Originally Posted by Spookyfish
(Post 583382)
I can't see how I would get a new box in by myself and as I've lots of other (real) work to do, I'm going to have it done.
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Originally Posted by flounder
(Post 583463)
I'll bet you did.:laugh:
-Flounder:noob: |
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