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Jester of Paint 12-27-2009 11:24 PM

Miatas on Bags
 
I am thinking about getting into a miata but am into bags coming from my vw roots. Has anyone every bagged a miata and any insight or advice would help.

SKMetalworks 12-27-2009 11:32 PM

Ive never heard of this phenomenon.

Zel 12-27-2009 11:34 PM

If you figure it out please share the install and pics. I've been interested in this a while back but couldn't find compact bags that fit within the specs of the stock spring and shocks.

*edit*

after research here's a link to a kit

http://www.airbagit.com/product-p/fbs-maz-70-kit3.htm

Rushin 12-27-2009 11:42 PM

If you are planning on actually using the miata for what it was designed (driving) dont do bags. They are heavy and will never be as good as coilovers or springs/shocks. Miata is not a vw.

turotufas 12-27-2009 11:59 PM

Oh my a miata running on three wheels.

JayL 12-28-2009 12:09 AM

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...S/lowrider.gif

Zel 12-28-2009 12:13 AM

Of course if you want your miata to be an extension of your sense of style then pop that kit on and run with it. Pics please. But if you are worried you won't be able to run flat out on a AutoX course with air bags then go traditional. More than anything please do what you want and post pics.

Jester of Paint 12-28-2009 12:26 AM

Airbagit has terrible products and I would use my own kit. As much as you guys think you will loose handling, if you use the correct things and know what you are doing you won't loose handling or comfort.

Joe Perez 12-28-2009 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by Zel (Post 500760)
Of course if you want your miata to be an extension of your sense of style then pop that kit on and run with it.
(...)
More than anything please do what you want and post pics.

The newb does not speak for all of us. :D

Airbag suspension has been shown in clinical trials to increase the risk of heart disease, blood clots, and stroke. Women who are pregnant or nursing, or who may become pregnant, should not use airbag suspension.

p51hellfire 12-28-2009 12:33 AM

:ban?: :gtfo:

Zel 12-28-2009 12:36 AM

I've been a troll for years now even though not a poster. Sorry i've not quoted the status quo but hey let person enjoy their car.

Joe Perez 12-28-2009 12:44 AM

Just givin' ya shit, dude.

Sentic 12-28-2009 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500763)
Airbagit has terrible products and I would use my own kit. As much as you guys think you will loose handling, if you use the correct things and know what you are doing you won't loose handling or comfort.

Maybe compared to stock. But to most here, stock is not well handling.

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Sentic (Post 500809)
Maybe compared to stock. But to most here, stock is not well handling.

Stock miata > most (would say all but there's got to be a couple exceptions) VW's on bags & any miata on bags, :fawk:

Doppelgänger 12-28-2009 07:40 AM

When I logged in this morning... I remember logging into a Miataturbo..not clubroadster.

hustler 12-28-2009 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500763)
Airbagit has terrible products and I would use my own kit. As much as you guys think you will loose handling, if you use the correct things and know what you are doing you won't loose handling or comfort.

You're a fucking retard.

hustler 12-28-2009 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Zel (Post 500771)
I've been a troll for years now even though not a poster. Sorry i've not quoted the status quo but hey let person enjoy their car.

Hey gaffot,
Go to the forums that "let people enjoy their cars" because this is a forum about turbocharging and not turning the car into a heap of shit, Holmes. You don't seem to understand punctuation or capitalization.

jacob300zx 12-28-2009 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500736)
I am thinking about getting into a miata but am into bags coming from my vw roots. Has anyone every bagged a miata and any insight or advice would help.

You suck at life, go ruin your car at clubroadster.net.



Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 500817)
When I logged in this morning... I remember logging into a Miataturbo..not clubroadster.


I thought I logged into the wrong forum.

-Banks- 12-28-2009 08:39 AM

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1234459762.jpg

hustler 12-28-2009 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by -Banks- (Post 500836)

You're not much better, faggette. I'm certain you'll open your mouth in a moment and spew horse-shit in this thread too.

-Banks- 12-28-2009 09:23 AM

why the fuck do you want bags on a miata??? should've stuck with vw.

y8s 12-28-2009 10:48 AM

DO IT
do it do it do it

thirdgen 12-28-2009 11:31 AM

I just bought a Z06 corvette. I was thinking about putting it on a 1978 Jeep CJ5 frame with a 6" suspension lift. What do you guys think? I think it would handle like an indy car!

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 500923)
I just bought a Z06 corvette. I was thinking about putting it on a 1978 Jeep CJ5 frame with a 6" suspension lift. What do you guys think? I think it would handle like an indy car!

Just don't use Rota's...they may fall apart on you.

Doppelgänger 12-28-2009 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by kplafin (Post 500930)
just don't use rota's sportfags...they may fall apart on you.

fyp

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 500946)
fyp

Twas a Banks joke...but that work too I suppose :fawk: :giggle:

Braineack 12-28-2009 12:20 PM

i bet you can find a fail picture of any wheel out there...

-Banks- 12-28-2009 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 500949)
Twas a Banks joke...but that work too I suppose :fawk: :giggle:

:youwish:

y8s 12-28-2009 12:31 PM

omg!

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...rokenwheel.jpg

omg!

http://www.mightywight.com/images/10_broken_wheel.jpg

omg!!

http://tonystirerepair.com/images/broken-wheel3.jpg

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 12:34 PM

In my search for wheel fail pics I stumbled upon this gem:

http://farkphotos.files.wordpress.co...heel_fail2.jpg

:giggle:

Jester of Paint 12-28-2009 01:19 PM

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Wow, for a bunch of guys who drive chick cars you guys have a bunch of hate. Unless you have every owned or drove a car on bags I think you can keep you comments to yourself. Maybe if you guys wouldn't act like asshole people might not make as much fun on your weak ass chick cars :laugh:
Here are some cars on bags.

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http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...w/GayMiata.jpg

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500982)
Wow, for a bunch of guys who drive chick cars you guys have a bunch of hate. Unless you have every owned or drove a car on bags I think you can keep you comments to yourself. Maybe if you guys wouldn't act like asshole people might not make as much fun on your weak ass chick cars :laugh:
Here are some cars on bags.

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/r.../IMG_93492.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/v...dea8cf59_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3595/...5cb72d33_o.jpg


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...z/DSC_0016.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/...1de31c2c3d.jpg

http://stancedesign.powweb.com/traveller/fall10.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3508/...ea0b6d98_o.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...w/GayMiata.jpg

If you don't like being here I'm sure one of our mods could help you resist the temptation of coming back if you ask them...or keep acting like a douche, that'd work to. Why is it that you're here again if Miata's are such "gay girly cars"? We act like assholes to keep the ricer fags away, you're more than welcome over at CR.net if being like the cars pictured above is your goal, when you want to make yourself some power and have a functional car AND stop being a bitch, you are more than welcome here.

EDIT: Point about bags...that last picture there, yea, that Miata could out handle any of the other cars you posted WITH the dog on the rear shelf, top down and on it's way home from a San Francisco gay pride parade with that guy driving.

Jester of Paint 12-28-2009 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 500983)
If you don't like being here I'm sure one of our mods could help you resist the temptation of coming back if you ask them...or keep acting like a douche, that'd work to. Why is it that you're here again if Miata's are such "gay girly cars"? We act like assholes to keep the ricer fags away, you're more than welcome over at CR.net if being like the cars pictured above is your goal, when you want to make yourself some power and have a functional car AND stop being a bitch, you are more than welcome here.



I didn't act like a douche until other people did. I am not a ricer fag but thanks for trying. I don't know why you guys care so much. I'm not going to put some vinyls on it and shitty ass rims. I'll let you guys take care of that. Here are some of my old cars.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/...a029ca73_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/...c10ec9d9_b.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/HPIM3571.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/HPIM3580.jpg

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500987)
I didn't act like a douche until other people did. I am not a ricer fag but thanks for trying. I don't know why you guys care so much. I'm not going to put some vinyls on it and shitty ass rims. I'll let you guys take care of that. Here are some of my old cars.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/...a029ca73_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/...c10ec9d9_b.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/HPIM3571.jpg

Seemingly stock Subie and a Corrado with 45lb wheels dragging what's left of it's nutsack on the ground, you're totally legit bro :jerkit:. Got any dyno's, track day pictures, decent mod lists (with more performance than visual and stereo mods) anything other than typical rice boy photoshoot pictures of these cars?

Stein 12-28-2009 01:36 PM

I'm not one to normally bash, but why in the hell is this crap thread on Miataturbo? Take it to CR. I'm sure you will get some bag nutswingers over there.

mgeoffriau 12-28-2009 01:45 PM

Don't mind all the haters. I happen to love Miatas on bags.

http://rlv.zcache.com/the_avenue_art...22w9bb_400.jpg

Jester of Paint 12-28-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 500989)
Seemingly stock Subie and a Corrado with 45lb wheels dragging what's left of it's nutsack on the ground, you're totally legit bro :jerkit:. Got any dyno's, track day pictures, decent mod lists (with more performance than visual and stereo mods) anything other than typical rice boy photoshoot pictures of these cars?


Corrado is all stage 4 with a 1.9 tdi crank and custom pistons and rods. Also a fully rebuilt head with msd ignition 6 puck clutch and tons of other stuff. Subaru is stock and audi is getting fitted for a blower.

Why do you guys think that everything needs a trackday? If you guys want to race nascar why don't you? I have no need to race my cars. I don't need to prove to everyone that I think that I am the next Jimmy Johnson. Unless you guys are hardcore drifters I would sell my "awesome miata" and buy something AWD.


You guys also like calling everyone ricers. You drive tiny 2 door convertibles! look at yourself.

gospeed81 12-28-2009 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500999)
Corrado is all stage 4 with a 1.9 tdi crank and custom pistons and rods. Also a fully rebuilt head with msd ignition 6 puck clutch and tons of other stuff. Subaru is stock and audi is getting fitted for a blower.

Why do you guys think that everything needs a trackday? If you guys want to race nascar why don't you? I have no need to race my cars. I don't need to prove to everyone that I think that I am the next Jimmy Johnson. Unless you guys are hardcore drifters I would sell my "awesome miata" and buy something AWD.


You guys also like calling everyone ricers. You drive tiny 2 door convertibles! look at yourself.



I would like to say welcome to our forum.

I would have done so in your MeetnGreet intro thread, but it appears you never made one.

You'll also notice we have a Useful Saved Posts section, which has a lot of FAQ, and info on all the topics this forum is about. I'm sorry, but you won't find airbag suspension in there.

Enjoy your stay.

KPLAFIN 12-28-2009 01:50 PM

I read your post to where you said it was "stage" something or other and quit, I give up.

Jester of Paint 12-28-2009 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 501001)
I would like to say welcome to our forum.

I would have done so in your MeetnGreet intro thread, but it appears you never made one.

You'll also notice we have a Useful Saved Posts section, which has a lot of FAQ, and info on all the topics this forum is about. I'm sorry, but you won't find airbag suspension in there.

Enjoy your stay.


All I need was this answer. You can delete/close/or contiunie this thread as you like. I'm out. Keep up the hard work miata fags. lawl

gospeed81 12-28-2009 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 501007)
All I need was this answer. You can delete/close/or contiunie this thread as you like. I'm out. Keep up the hard work miata fags. lawl

In other words you don't plan on contributing at all?

See that I have a problem with. I don't care what you want to do to your Miata (although there are better forums for the slammed on bags stuff), but crapping up our forum and then planning on jetting sucks.

You could have used a Google site search and quickly either found your answer, or realized we wouldn't have the expertise you were looking for....all without calling us names.

Good luck at life.


EDIT: Blatant disregard of forum etiqutte is a party foul, regardless of how cool you are on your side of the ISP. Forums only work when a collective abides by a set of rules and contributes. You are forum anarchy.

Joe Perez 12-28-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jester of Paint (Post 500982)
Here are some cars on bags.
(pictures of cars)

The first common theme that I note is that most of the vehicles pictured are either station wagons, or their tires are about to fall off.



You guys also like calling everyone ricers. You drive tiny 2 door convertibles! look at yourself.
Not everyone. We call the folks who drive Kias with airbag suspension dog-eaters. :D


In all seriousness though, you've come to a forum called MiataTurbo. One has to assume from the name that a majority of the folks who congregate there have more than a passing interest in performance driving. Some of the folks here are in fact track rats, others of us dabble in the occasional autocross, but I'd wager that most simply enjoy driving a fast car to and from our job at the hair salon every day.

The thing is, while "slammed" cars might have their place in the world, they're generally not associated with high-performance driving, be it in an oval, on the street, or a quarter mile at a time. For instance, when I think of all of the OEM applications in which airbag suspension is used, here's what I find:

http://nycclassiclimo.com/images/200...arLOutside.jpg

http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/images/roa...bus_e-bbtr.jpg

http://www.asuperiormove.com/images/large_truck.jpg

http://www.carxtreme.co.uk/images/Fi...home.old.1.JPG


So you can see where our skepticism is founded, yes?


An interesting question would be: in what racing series is airbag suspension commonly used?

Yes, I know- you're not interested in racing. That's not the point, though. For me, it's a sort of litmus test. Whenever somebody proposes a nontraditional scheme to do "X", I like to ask myself "Are OEMs or serious race teams doing X?" See, if X works, and doesn't require cold fusion or room-temperature semiconductors, then one of those two groups will have already jumped on it.

(Actually, the F1 teams would have jumped on it even if it did require cold fusion.)

So, you identify for me which automobile racing series tend to favor airbag suspension, and I think you'll start to see why you've been greeted the way you have. :bigtu:



Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 501011)
Blatant disregard of forum etiqutte is a party foul, regardless of how cool you are on your side of the ISP. Forums only work when a collective abides by a set of rules and contributes. You are forum anarchy.

^ This.

Doppelgänger 12-28-2009 02:28 PM

Go ask on SCCAForums....or maybe roadraceautox.com

And you are the reason I think VW owners are a bunch of retarded morons. People like you hold them up like your shit don't stick and that having staggered wheels on a FWD car with 205 on a 10" wide rim is cool. But i'm sure you'll come back slinging how having proper fitting wheels with wide tires and going to the track is useless and a waste of time :rolleyes:
Yeah..because sports cars were all made to run fucking ovals....dumbass. Have fun over on CR.

Braineack 12-28-2009 02:33 PM

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please visit clubroadster.net

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Zel 12-28-2009 02:47 PM


Yes, I know- you're not interested in racing. That's not the point, though. For me, it's a sort of litmus test. Whenever somebody proposes a nontraditional scheme to do "X", I like to ask myself "Are OEMs or serious race teams doing X?" See, if X works, and doesn't require cold fusion or room-temperature semiconductors, then one of those two groups will have already jumped on it.
I agree 100% when it comes to somethings auto related but there are some notable . OEM aren't known for being as cutting edge as race teams. OEMs are about cost control and off the shelf construction to maximize profit. Race teams are constantly being hamstrung by new class regulations which limit the level of innovation they can bring to the track.

With those 2 major sources of innovation pushed aside there really isn't any other arena where new or old ideas can be repositioned in the market other than the aftermarket. Then lets not forget that any idea which goes against the norm is blasted by purists who feel that the old ways are better. This holds as true for auto mags as it does for forums.

Lets not forget that using turbo charges on gasoline engines was a new concept before WW2 even though they had been invented in 1908. Hell the first production turbo charged car didn't come till the 60's and look at what innovation has followed since those early days.

Sorry to ramble but it's a well studied fact in the field of computer mediated communications, that new ideas in forums are always flamed at first for a number of reasons. After this break-in period, if the person follows through and shares experience it will gain some measure of acceptance over time.

Who knows, this person or someone like him may revolutionize maita performance airbag suspensions. *Edit* maybe not.

chriscar 12-28-2009 03:22 PM

Miata, VW, etc, the gayness of a street car with an inch of clearance is lost on me.

C

-Banks- 12-28-2009 03:34 PM

a simple search would've told you wether or not this was the forum for you.

you could stay and maybe learn a thing or two about how miatas arent a hairdressers car, and that it has one of the best suspension systems developed in a production car sold to the general public? if you want airbags, get a lexus ls400. they have them stock.

webby459 12-28-2009 03:57 PM

why banned? WHY BANNED???!!!

buffon01 12-28-2009 04:06 PM


Unless you guys are hardcore drifters I would sell my "awesome miata" and buy something AWD.
^^ this = Pussy-ass-bitch
Drifting :facepalm:

Braineack 12-28-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 501115)
why banned? WHY BANNED???!!!


why not. I foresee no use for someone gung-ho on slammage. He should post in here:
The Slammed Thread. - ClubRoadster.net
or
The moderately slammed thread, not to be confused with show us your dropped miata or slammed thread. - ClubRoadster.net
or
Slammed guys, how do you jack up your car? - ClubRoadster.net
or
Living with a slammed Miata. - ClubRoadster.net

Joe Perez 12-28-2009 05:11 PM

Aw, hell. I was just getting warmed up. :giggle:

Scotty15 12-28-2009 05:11 PM

My daily driver is an LS400 with air bag suspension. Driving it is sort of like going down the road on your living room couch. It's comfortable, quiet and boring. Handling is marshmellow non existent. It suits the Lexus, but their is no way I would want any part of this system on my Miata. It's the exact opposite of performance handling.

turotufas 12-28-2009 06:04 PM

:bowrofl: Man that is intelligent humor.

Braineack 12-28-2009 06:13 PM

Hey guys, I'm thinking about converting the miata to a macpherson strut system...thoughts?

18psi 12-28-2009 06:13 PM

Only if you do leaf springs in the rear

Zel 12-28-2009 09:28 PM

Don't forget drum brakes.

18psi 12-28-2009 09:32 PM

Oh and carburators

miataspeed2005 12-28-2009 10:33 PM

Braineack you should of put a picture of my broken bumper LOL

miata2fast 12-28-2009 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 501296)
Oh and carburators

You shut your mouth. :giggle:

y8s 12-28-2009 11:34 PM

if you do put on the air bags

you gotta get the little velour tassles hanging from the window frames. dat shit is hott.


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