NC Xidas are here
“It’s about time dammit” https://supermiata.com/images/produc...ida_1024_4.jpg The long wait is over. In stock and available to ship now. Xida Reviews NCX are offered in two variants, same exact shock and valving for both. Both options ship fully assembled with our BCM (billet coaxial mounts). 3 year warranty. Front and rear shock boots included. As with all Xidas, the single damping adjustment affects both rebound and compression in a carefully staged, non-linear slope that is unique front and rear. Touring 280/224 (5/4kg) Swift springs with helpers Race 616/392 (11/7kg) Swift springs with helpers. Race rear employ a triple spring set up. You have questions, we have answers The product page has a ton of info, including basic set up, sway bars options, etc. https://supermiata.com/NC-xida-coilover-miata-MX5.aspx https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8000db749d.jpg Xida rear shock length is about 20mm shorter than OEM. That gives them about 23mm more wheel bump travel than OEM. So if you lower your car 20mm, you will still have the same bump travel as OEM. Achieving this target while retaining the damping profile, adjustment range and low NVH was largely why it took so darn long to get them ready for production. Its eye opening to be able to drive around 1” below stock, hit a steep driveway at 20mph angled at 45°, catch a little air and not bottom the suspension or tires. And that’s on Touring springs. While we don’t recommend doing that, it’s one of the basic tests we do during development and is just a small corner of their performance envelope. Ride heights in this composite image, from top to bottom: Max bump is about 63mm pinch weld Min recommended ride height is 125~130mm Max recommended ride height is 165, shown in this photo. Although they'll adjust as high as 180mm if you want to rallycross or something. Max droop shown here is around 215~230mm Yes kids, that's 6.5" of functional wheel travel At one inch lower than OEM, you still have almost 3" of bump travel The days of smashing your kidneys over every little bump are over https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fce09cba54.jpg |
Another angle without the shock bag. The Race springs are a triple stack in rear. 392 lb main, high rate helper and zero rate tender "ZRT". Touring and Race front use our standard double spring with main and high rate helper.
All NC Xidas will have the front boot and rear sprig bag. By early 2022, the NA, NB , ND and 86 kits will also include a new neoprene sleeve we're working on. These sleeves can be added to any 2.5 or 2.25" diameter coilover with 10 -12" spring length. Should have those ready in the next few months. The orange ring on the bottom of the rears is the rear damping adjuster. No need to go into trunk. Easily reached from behind the rear wheel with a 4mm hex key. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...eff9be9ff8.jpg |
I am currently deciding on this or a 7500DA with regressive valving, and Ed has been fantastic to talk to and has provided really good information. I'm just not really crazy about the lack pf travel on the Ohlins, and I do like to tinker.
Thanks for making a product for this niche. |
You can build a fantastic set of NC shocks using Penske 7500DA hardware. The tricky part is getting all the dimensions, valving, spring stacks and mounts fully optimized. In our case, we spent the last 3 years testing, making prototypes and getting everything completely dialed.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
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You can build a fantastic set of NC shocks using Penske 7500DA hardware. The tricky part is getting all the dimensions, valving, spring stacks and mounts fully optimized. In our case, we spent the last 3 years testing, making prototypes and getting everything completely dialed.
It's a tough decision for a slightly odd usage regimen . Edit: And I ordered a set along with some bump limiters. I drove a hillclimb route today and the Ohlins just isn't composed on the fractured pavement. |
Originally Posted by Toiyabe
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Agreed, that's why I'm talking to you guys, Keisler, and Ankeny.
It's a tough decision for a slightly odd usage regimen . Edit: And I ordered a set along with some bump limiters. I drove a hillclimb route today and the Ohlins just isn't composed on the fractured pavement. If I may ask about your wheel/tire setup: -tire size and compound? -wheel width and offset? -fenders stock, rolled or flares? |
Originally Posted by emilio700
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Thanks for the order!
If I may ask about your wheel/tire setup: -tire size and compound? -wheel width and offset? -fenders stock, rolled or flares? 17x9 +45 Pulled and rolled. Fronts rub the liners on the current Ohlins on bumps cornering, rears just kiss at full stuff with the bump stop compressed. |
Originally Posted by Toiyabe
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255/40-17 Super 200TW, on RT660 currently.
17x9 +45 Pulled and rolled. Fronts rub the liners on the current Ohlins on bumps cornering, rears just kiss at full stuff with the bump stop compressed. I hope you do :) |
Originally Posted by emilio700
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Yup. You'll need the travel limiters until you can do flares.
I hope you do :) Someday… I’m trying to stay (quasi) legal for STR which have a maximum wheel and tire and don’t allow flares. I’ll probably throw that out the window and do a 2.5 at some point, but… At a rougher autox today the soft rates I am running get great, and I didn’t get much rub. But I definitely found the bump stops. |
RX8!
Got an RX8 in the shop to do a fit check. We'll add these to our site soon. Much excite.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...395e92c9aa.jpg |
Prelim measurements look good. RX8 has a bunch more room for bump travel and width than NC. Shock dimensions are spot on but an RX8 fitment will require new, taller rear mounts. Pretty sure we can offer a kit with the same massive bump and droop travel as the NC kit, at maybe only $100 more.
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Anyone have any questions on the NC Xidas?
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Originally Posted by emilio700
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Anyone have any questions on the NC Xidas?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
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Are they shipping tomorrow?
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Are they here yet? Are they here yet? Are they here yet? Are they here yet? My last set of wheels shows up tomorrow, and I am ready for clearancing and bump travel checking... |
Pallet of NC Xidas landed today. Mounts arrive in about a week. Should be shipping on schedule.
Long time waiting for this moment. So eager to get these into your hands. Also some ND shocks and top sekrit prototype bits https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d5977e5740.jpg |
The bit about the RX-8 compatibility is pretty cool. When I get around to working on that project that might be a good option.
Question I had: Is that spring profile unique to Swift or can they be configured with something from Hyperco or Eibach instead? |
Originally Posted by Arca_ex
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The bit about the RX-8 compatibility is pretty cool. When I get around to working on that project that might be a good option.
Question I had: Is that spring profile unique to Swift or can they be configured with something from Hyperco or Eibach instead? |
Standard 2.5"/65mm springs front and rear on NCX.
Late change to the design. Originally 2.25" straight, then 2.5" barrels. Then 2.5" straight. The barrel springs solved one problem but cased new ones. We were able to come up with a better overall design, more durable with greater versatility with the 65mm diameter springs. |
BUMP for NC Xida Promo.
Check out the product page for full details, but we are basically heavily incentivizing reviews. $200 after you write and publish a review of your new NC Xidas. Another $100 if you replaced a competitive product, so up to $300 in rebates. Club Orange still applies, so total possible discount of over $430. Promo good on orders placed by midnight December 6th. If you've already placed an order, no worries - this offer still applies to you. |
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