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the shitty part about expensive suspension is getting replacements and revalving. I was ready to buy tein but I quickly realized that if I screwed one up or needed revalving, that I was screwed. If you're going to spend big money on dampers, I'd go above and beyond with like moton, and ground control perches. That way if you need them services or you put one into a curve, you're only out for one unit, and not all 4...because I had a total of 7 H&R coilovers when I had the VW, when I blew one. Nothing like paying $1700 for one shock.
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What spike says is completely true and its not as expensive as you think. Recommended every 20k miles also. I've got the Ohlins DFV's and wrote a review on them posted here:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...ght=ohlins+DFV
They are well worth the money. Doppleganger and Virus also have them here.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...ght=ohlins+DFV
They are well worth the money. Doppleganger and Virus also have them here.
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What spike says is completely true and its not as expensive as you think. Recommended every 20k miles also. I've got the Ohlins DFV's and wrote a review on them posted here:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...ght=ohlins+DFV
They are well worth the money. Doppleganger and Virus also have them here.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...ght=ohlins+DFV
They are well worth the money. Doppleganger and Virus also have them here.
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i see dampers as a wear item, and I'm not rich. I blew up a shock a few months ago from a pot-hole.
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I've been down this road, and good luck with that. I've tried this before and its not as easy as it sounds. They have to order parts which aren't cheap, then charge you $200 in labor.
i see dampers as a wear item, and I'm not rich. I blew up a shock a few months ago from a pot-hole.
i see dampers as a wear item, and I'm not rich. I blew up a shock a few months ago from a pot-hole.
If parts+$200 labour is what it costs to repair a high end coilover,then that's what it costs,there's no way around it.If the high cost of repair/maintaning them is too much,then I suggest a more economic route to suspension.
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As for coparing them to the KYB's and Bilsteins:
KYB's (my previous shocks) cheap, last around 3-5 years or 30k miles on mild springs around 300lbs. Wouldn't go higher. Ride rough.
Bilsteins, praised by the old generation, last damn near forever 100k betwen rebuilds. Can be revalved for whatever spring rates you want, but also ride rough
Ohlins, pricey, can be rebuilt at any motorcycle performance shop, can be revalved to any spring rate desired, superior damping to the bilsteins, and ride more comfortable on the streets than any setup I have driven on same tires Falken RT-615's (for consistency)
Also most sexy of them all.
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Nobody on here is rich,that's why we all drive miatas and not Ferrari's.
If parts+$200 labour is what it costs to repair a high end coilover,then that's what it costs,there's no way around it.If the high cost of repair/maintaning them is too much,then I suggest a more economic route to suspension.
If parts+$200 labour is what it costs to repair a high end coilover,then that's what it costs,there's no way around it.If the high cost of repair/maintaning them is too much,then I suggest a more economic route to suspension.
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the shitty part about expensive suspension is getting replacements and revalving. I was ready to buy tein but I quickly realized that if I screwed one up or needed revalving, that I was screwed. If you're going to spend big money on dampers, I'd go above and beyond with like moton, and ground control perches. That way if you need them services or you put one into a curve, you're only out for one unit, and not all 4...because I had a total of 7 H&R coilovers when I had the VW, when I blew one. Nothing like paying $1700 for one shock.
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what kind of crack are you smoking? if you screw up one of the motons, youre more fucked than if you blew a tein shock. tein will overhaul shocks for a hundred bucks a piece where as i dont even want to know how much Moton charges to overhaul their stuff. as for the comment about moton and ground control perches? dude, moton shocks give you the option of having a threaded body. you dont need GC perches.. haha
I'm smoking the crack you're mother gave me after feeding her my 12" **** of death. I've seen two sets of motons with non-moton perches. One was a tube framed c5, the other was an evo. I never claimed to be the suspension god, only commented from experience though a few billion track days.
I've driven a miata with teins, and I didn't need charmin, probably because it wasn't corner weighted. I'm not going to put suspension that expensive on a car that sees the street, because I'm not going to buy another set to get 1 shock when the inevitable happens.
I know my budget set-up is ****, but I've never wished I had something else on the track, and the accelerometer doesn't lie.
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I'm not going to put suspension that expensive on a car that sees the street, because I'm not going to buy another set to get 1 shock when the inevitable happens.
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I got ya.... I thought you were stating that we would have to purchase new vs. rebuilding. But, yes, if I destroy one.....then to replace may mean purchasing a new set. Luckily, I kept my old SPAX adjustables just in case, to hold me over if need be. Besides, I'm a cheap bastard too, and I picked mine up from John. No way would I have paid full price for the Flexes at the moment.......
I'm not going to put suspension that expensive on a car that sees the street, because I'm not going to buy another set to get 1 shock when the inevitable happens.
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I got ya.... I thought you were stating that we would have to purchase new vs. rebuilding. But, yes, if I destroy one.....then to replace may mean purchasing a new set. Luckily, I kept my old SPAX adjustables just in case, to hold me over if need be. Besides, I'm a cheap bastard too, and I picked mine up from John. No way would I have paid full price for the Flexes at the moment.......
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For having all that "experience", you say a lot of stupid ****, Hustler. My RACEs will perform better on track, handle higher spring rates, and ride smoother on the street than your Bilsteins ever will. They're also revalvable at a cost of around $125 a shock. And even if you do totally **** one by throwing your car into a curb and bending the **** out of it, you can buy them in pairs, not in sets of 4.
Your e-thugging is a nice comic relief to the forum, but perhaps you should stay away from the technical advice?
Your e-thugging is a nice comic relief to the forum, but perhaps you should stay away from the technical advice?