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Faeflora 03-21-2011 10:06 AM

Pick some pads for me please
 
I currently have porterfield R4S on my car and they are dying.

I want some street pads that

a) bite hard when braking hard down from 120mph+
b) don't dust like mad

Minimal dusting is important to me because I don't have a place to wash my car.

Doppelgänger 03-21-2011 10:22 AM

Hawk Blues. You'll love them.








What did you not like about the R4S'? Tried the Hawk HPS yet? I've run the Hawk HP+ and really liked them, but the dust is a problem after a few days. I'm currently running the R4S on my Brembos and just just HPS on the GF's MSM.

Faeflora 03-21-2011 10:33 AM

R4S make my wheels black in about an hour.

I haven't tried hps or hp+.

And omg! my GF has a MSM too!

Braineack 03-21-2011 10:35 AM

If you want good stopping from 120mph, you don't want HPS. HP+ are great for street but noisy.

Reverant 03-21-2011 10:43 AM

My white wheels have turned black from the HP+. So avoid them.

Faeflora 03-21-2011 10:59 AM

Maybe I should just give up and paint my wheels black?

Bond 03-21-2011 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 704337)
Maybe I should just give up and paint my wheels black?

This. It always seems to end up that way.

Reverant 03-21-2011 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 704337)
Maybe I should just give up and paint my wheels black?

If you get the HP+, then you won't have to paint them black!

Faeflora 03-21-2011 11:55 AM

Can anyone think of a good way to accellerate the brake pad aluminum oxidizing effect?

Perhaps I could go for a "salt and pepper" finish.

curly 03-21-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 704305)
a) bite hard when braking hard down from 120mph+
b) don't dust like mad

Pick one. And only one.

Another vote for Hawk HP+

read this:
http://www.racingbeat.com/Miata-1990...ads/54570.html

for info on the other compounds. Sounds like HPS would be good.

Faeflora 03-21-2011 02:40 PM

Fine I surrender.

Duplicolor here I come. I was going to get my wheels copper plated for a kickass natural patina to match my paint but fuck it.

New question:

What is the most badass street pad? Rotor wear be damned for i rock napa.

Braineack 03-21-2011 02:43 PM

Just rock race pads on street. Like Carbotech Xp8s or even Xp10s.

pgeldz 03-21-2011 04:13 PM

Ferodo DS2500 or Endless SS-S would be a good pad for your needs...

kaisersoze 03-21-2011 04:59 PM

Maybe the carbotech AX6s? might dust a little less than XP8s

Otherwise just get the hawk blues as someone above said. they are really quiet too, especially when cold!

sjmarcy 03-21-2011 08:02 PM

Armorall Wheel Protectant actually works quite well. Apply every few weeks and you'll endure very little dust or dirt on your wheels. Might help you use a more aggressive pad...

http://images.solidcactus.com/autoba...protectant.jpg

Faeflora 03-21-2011 08:23 PM

It's too late for my 6ULs. :(

fmowry 03-22-2011 06:45 AM

Tampax.

I just painted some LegGT wheels using the duplicolor graphite and it's dark.

As for pads. Seriously for a street car you're limited to the tires ability to brake on a shitty street surface so the most badass pads will either:

A) Allow you to lock up quicker and skid on the shitty surface or

B) induce the ABS.

There won't be much difference between a decent less dusty pad and a rotor chewing race pad for a daily driver.

How retarded do you really drive on the street?

Braineack 03-22-2011 09:04 AM

If you get over 100mph on the highway, which is easy, then need to panic stop, typical street pads will just glaze over.

I had that happen to me with HPSs, at 80mph, on my stock 1.6L brakes and ordered 1.8L brackets and rotors and HP+ pads the next day.

fmowry 03-22-2011 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 704758)
If you get over 100mph on the highway, which is easy, then need to panic stop, typical street pads will just glaze over.

I had that happen to me with HPSs, at 80mph, on my stock 1.6L brakes and ordered 1.8L brackets and rotors and HP+ pads the next day.

In an NB that already has bigger brakes with ABS (I think he has ABS)?

I guess I just don't cruise around at 100 any more.

Braineack 03-22-2011 09:13 AM

Just sayin'.

I think anything in the HP+, Ultimates, R4s zone should suffice. But with that said, we have plenty of guys here Daily Driving on XP10s.


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