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miataspeed2005 10-21-2009 03:37 PM

Rear end snaped!
 
My rear end snaped right in one of the arms. I had my buddy welded back with a strong thick weld. Do you guys think it will hold? Or am I wasting my time? I really don't want to buy a new one.

mgeoffriau 10-21-2009 03:41 PM

SNAPED!

http://images.fanpop.com/images/imag...58_549_293.jpg

18psi 10-21-2009 03:42 PM

It is aluminum. Did your buddy weld it together properly? The size of the weld does not matter as much as doing it CORRECTLY does. If he used regular 'ol welding and not specifically an aluminum welder using a tri-mix of gas I don't see it holding together well.

Savington 10-21-2009 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 471431)
SNAPED

:laugh:

y8s 10-21-2009 03:59 PM

potter potter potter potter

naarleven 10-21-2009 04:05 PM

rear control arm snapped??? what did you do?

snape snape severus snape, DUMBLEDORE!

Braineack 10-21-2009 04:38 PM

oh shnap!

http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...serialNumber=2

miataspeed2005 10-21-2009 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by naarleven (Post 471442)
rear control arm snapped??? what did you do?

snape snape severus snape, DUMBLEDORE!

Not a rear control arm. I don't know what they are called but one of the arms that hold the rear end.
I was launching the car and the rear just snaped, I'm pretty sure he welded it good as he does it for a living. I guess I'll have to just try it and cross fingers?I would just hate to be left out on the side of the road

18psi 10-21-2009 04:45 PM

i'd start looking for a new one. Should be fairly cheap at a scrap yard

Loki047 10-21-2009 05:24 PM

Yesh if only someone was selling a rear end...

M-Tuned 10-21-2009 05:42 PM

It will be fine if welded properly. I've seen many diffs like that last for a very long time once welded. Welded ones are usually stronger as the diff is designed to break there in a rear end accident. (Diff is knotched to allow this to break)

y8s 10-21-2009 06:52 PM

anyone with the notched model diff should grind the notch to be a smooth transition over like 2 inches and it wont break so easily.

miatauser884 10-21-2009 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Marc@M-Tuned.com (Post 471500)
It will be fine if welded properly. I've seen many diffs like that last for a very long time once welded. Welded ones are usually stronger as the diff is designed to break there in a rear end accident. (Diff is knotched to allow this to break)

Sounds like it might be a good idea to reinforce this area before trying extremely hard launches.

Good bit of info, Thanks

9671111 10-21-2009 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 471467)

This didn't manage to find its way to parts group did it?

neogenesis2004 10-21-2009 09:57 PM

It just so happens I have spare in my garage. Whats it worth to you?

miatamania 10-21-2009 10:12 PM

Been there done that.

miataspeed2005 10-21-2009 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 471609)
It just so happens I have spare in my garage. Whats it worth to you?

I'm going to give this one a try and see what happens, I'll let you know if it doesn't hold up.

kenzo42 10-21-2009 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 471523)
anyone with the notched model diff should grind the notch to be a smooth transition over like 2 inches and it wont break so easily.

Dumb question:

So once the notch is removed, it won't break as easily although it's now thinner throughout the 2" length?

y8s 10-21-2009 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 471630)
Dumb question:

So once the notch is removed, it won't break as easily although it's now thinner throughout the 2" length?

yup. the notch is a designed-in stress concentration.

it focuses the stress at a single point on the surface instead of distributing it along a longer length naturally.

same deal for cutting glass... you score a line to create a stress concentration and it breaks easily at the line. it is weaker at that point than even a thinner piece of glass.

kenzo42 10-21-2009 11:17 PM

So why did Mazda put the notch in anyway? Prevent frame damage in rear end collision?


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