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Old 08-14-2018, 02:16 PM
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https://www.mazdamotorsports.com/201...sion-evolving/

Those of you looking to build Bilstein setups for street cars are going to be very happy about this news.
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Basically I've come over to the camp of "If something is a reliability problem on the track, just ask Andrew and do what he says".
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Maybe you'll actually be able to get Bilsteins now.
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Honestly, I want to try the Penske setup. Doesn't appear to be any more expensive than Bilsteins, question is what kind of shock setup and valving you get for the money?
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I was just starting to consider a billie street setup for my NB. Gonna have to keeo an eye out for some cheap take offs.
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Originally Posted by x_25 View Post
I was just starting to consider a billie street setup for my NB. Gonna have to keeo an eye out for some cheap take offs.
By cheap you mean hopefully free? Or scrap price. SM shock takeoffs are going to be hhhaaaaammmmmeeerrrrrreeeddddd.

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Honestly, I want to try the Penske setup. Doesn't appear to be any more expensive than Bilsteins, question is what kind of shock setup and valving you get for the money?
It's literally 2.5x more expensive than Bilsteins.
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My friend has been picking up takeoffs for $25 an axle from a local racer. They have all been fine, other than the bushings being deformed.

Now if only my friend could stop crashing and needing replacements...
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I guess at $50/set they'd be worth it as rebuildable/revalveable cores.
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It's literally 2.5x more expensive than Bilsteins.
Where are you getting that number? Penskes are ~$200/corner. Additional $250 for top mount and bump stop kit or $1050 for full kit.
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Originally Posted by cabowabo View Post
Where are you getting that number? Penskes are ~$200/corner. Additional $250 for top mount and bump stop kit or $1050 for full kit.
Bilsteins are $100/corner and don't require top hats. Ees maths, ees very nice.
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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
Bilsteins are $100/corner and don't require top hats. Ees maths, ees very nice.
Houw du? Nevermind. I actually read the announcement. Penskes still need the coilover bits and such.

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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
Bilsteins are $100/corner and don't require top hats. Ees maths, ees very nice.
Derp, thought billies were a bit more than that. I doubt the penske must be run with the new spherical top hat, it just has to be run with it to be compliant in SM. Still 2x the cost, but for a budget track setup I'd take the properly valved shock over the billie all day.
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV View Post
Houw du?

Ya'all wild, and reading is hard.

That price is for the SHOCKS.
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Originally Posted by cabowabo View Post
Derp, thought billies were a bit more than that. I doubt the penske must be run with the new spherical top hat, it just has to be run with it to be compliant in SM. Still 2x the cost, but for a budget track setup I'd take the properly valved shock over the billie all day.
I agree. But that "budget track setup" built around these Penskes puts you right into Xidas territory.
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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
Ya'all wild, and reading is hard.

That price is for the SHOCKS.
Yep. I read after posting like a tool and didn't edit fast enough. My bad.
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Smooches.
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Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
I agree. But that "budget track setup" built around these Penskes puts you right into Xidas territory.
As a xida owner I'm right there with you, but if someone is really pinching pennies and doesn't care about damping adjustment/hypercos/dual spring/etc, they could come in a little south of xidas. Splitting hairs at that point, but you know people will do it if given the chance.
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I'd also have to see them.... i somewhat doubt they'll work with oem top hats. At least not as is. Pure speculation though.
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Unlike the current Spec Miata shock, the Penske will be tamper-proof, and rebuildable through Penske at $100/shock.

-taken from an article from Racer website
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I saw your post on Facebook Andrew, on the SM Drama man site. Love it when you tag those, hilarious reading. I was reading the one a few months ago about the horrible cheating everyone was doing at Sonoma, mainly with Haag motors. I was ironically racing with him that weekend (I think).

I would be interesting in seeing someone's impressions of basically a budget Bilstein setup except with the SM Penskes. Not worth it for me, as a MCS dealer I can just go that route nearly as easily...

Someone do it!
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