Source for power steering delete tensioner
So, while I was a googlin' I did find myself staring at a brand new Mazda 1.8L power steering delete pulley. Now, most of you know that part number BP01-15-930 has been discontinued and marked NLA. But did you know that the 94-97 Kia Sephia could come with A/C and without P/S as an option? The part number is 0K201-15-930, and my local dealer told me it was available as a special order at $80 something list. It looks like it is available from most Kia Parts Direct-type web stores at around ~$65. I didn't want to shim my A/C compressor, and now I don't have to.
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Props for useful information.
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Wow, awesome. Post up pics when you get it!
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Check the useful saved threads section for my thread about not using a tensioner pulley on the A/C.
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Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
(Post 1129836)
I didn't want to shim my A/C compressor, and now I don't have to.
Oh, and pic. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1399915982 |
Be sure to update with post-installation pictures please!
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Ooooh. Shiny new parts.
I'm going the Sixshooter route myself. Picked up 4 M8x100 bolts today with a handful of washers. Under $10 with tax. AC isn't missing mission critical. I can deal with having to reshim four bolts if/when the belt squeals. |
I only needed to shim two of the bolts. Depending upon washer thickness, four is a lot of additional tension. You'll see when you do it. Just like with the alternator belt, it only needs to be as tight as necessary to eliminate slippage. Too much tension will load the front main bearing to one side when tightening either of the belts and create excess wear and drag.
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Thanks for the information. Mine was delivered yesterday. Off to go remove power steering...
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Looks like you're going to beat me to installation! My power steering delete is going in with my NB engine/subframe swap, which is about a month out at this point.
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Just to be clear.... this is to delete power steering, but KEEP A/C, right?
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Yes! This allows you to tension the A/C belt without having the power steering pump.
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Very good. I like. Many props given.
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This could help some supercharged guys not running a/c or p/s.
There has been a power steering delete bracket and dummy pully avalible from treasure coast. Its 150.00$ This was 80? Thats a great find http://treasurecoastmiata.com/i-1165...kit-90-05.html |
Originally Posted by zacktrotter_uncc
(Post 1135361)
This could help some supercharged guys not running a/c or p/s.
There has been a power steering delete bracket and dummy pully avalible from treasure coast. Its 150.00$ This was 80? Thats a great find Power Steering Delete Pulley Kit '90-'05 |
I called a local parts shop and gave them that part number. They told me it's for the pulley only and not the bracket to mount it to the car. What website were you guys getting the whole assembly from?
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Originally Posted by kozy
(Post 1135430)
I called a local parts shop and gave them that part number. They told me it's for the pulley only and not the bracket to mount it to the car. What website were you guys getting the whole assembly from?
Dunno. Have you tried plugging it into google? The first result totally isn't the entire assembly for $63 + shipping. |
This is a dealer part number. Aftermarket interchange numbers will only consist of the pulley with bearing, as 90% of the time that's all that needs to be replaced. Only the dealer (or online dealer store) will have the whole assembly.
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This is incredible. Great find, really helpful to the whole community. :)
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Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
(Post 1135432)
This is a dealer part number. Aftermarket interchange numbers will only consist of the pulley with bearing, as 90% of the time that's all that needs to be replaced. Only the dealer (or online dealer store) will have the whole assembly.
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Originally Posted by kozy
(Post 1135480)
Good point. I just talked to a dealer's parts dept and they said the same thing. Has anyone come across a good website to get this whole assembly for less than the $96 my local dealer wants to rob me of? Most website I'm seeing don't really specify whether or not it's the pulley only or the whole assembly.
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1135431)
Dunno. Have you tried plugging it into google? The first result totally isn't the entire assembly for $63 + shipping.
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This part number is for the whole assembly. Tell them you want the Kia part number, not an interchange. If they ask for an application, tell them it's a 1995 Kia Sephia without power steering and with A/C.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1135482)
U srs?
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Well I must have googled something wrong then because I was coming up with all sorts of bogus parts sites that didn't look credible at all.
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Dealer parts sites never look credible. I always use PayPal.
Edit: Except Rosenthal. Their site is great, but I wish it had diagrams. |
Stay away from KiaPartsOverstock.com
I placed the order online Friday and haven't gotten any update on the order status yet. I tried calling the number on their website and it rings for 30 seconds then hangs up. |
Originally Posted by kozy
(Post 1136439)
Stay away from KiaPartsOverstock.com
I placed the order online Friday and haven't gotten any update on the order status yet. I tried calling the number on their website and it rings for 30 seconds then hangs up. |
Has anyone tried bolting this thing up yet? I just want confirmation that it really does fit as expected.
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Originally Posted by DaveC
(Post 1136873)
Has anyone tried bolting this thing up yet? I just want confirmation that it really does fit as expected.
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So it eventually showed up for KiaPartsOverstock.com ?
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Nope, I finally got that order canceled after multiple emails. Funny, they never responded back to me once or even sent me a cancellation confirmation email. Only way I knew it was canceled was because I saw the return show up on my credit card.
I ordered one from my local dealer and had it within 2 days. |
Originally Posted by M2Ken
(Post 1136697)
I placed my order from Kia Parts Overstock on May 14, and it was shipped on May 21. Part number 0K20115930. Not the quickest to ship out by any means (they indicated parts ship in 2-5 days), but no problems here.
And could you tell me what it cost? |
It will probably include the bracket and the pulley, but I doubt you will ever get anyone to sell you everything. It costs more than a banana and less than a Bentley, unless you do find someone to sell you everything. I bet the cost would skyrocket then.
Also, quit using semicolons and colons. It makes you look stupid when you use them incorrectly. You also put a question mark at the end of a statement. Colon (Punctuation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Semicolon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia What's even worse is that you're so close: Reviving this topic; Ken, was this the entire assembly: the bracket, the pulley, and the hardware? And could you tell me what it cost? |
Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
(Post 1169884)
It will probably include the bracket and the pulley, but I doubt you will ever get anyone to sell you everything. It costs more than a banana and less than a Bentley, unless you do find someone to sell you everything. I bet the cost would skyrocket then.
Also, quit using semicolons and colons. It makes you look stupid when you use them incorrectly. You also put a question mark at the end of a statement. Colon (Punctuation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Semicolon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia What's even worse is that you're so close: You've been so very... ...very helpful! |
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Old thread, but I was lead here by Google.
Went to my local dealer and there are none of these left in the United States. It doesn't show that it is discontinued, but he said he would guess NLA. So shim it is. |
Originally Posted by Gimpster
Old thread, but I was lead here by Google.
Went to my local dealer and there are none of these left in the United States. It doesn't show that it is discontinued, but he said he would guess NLA. So shim it is. |
Originally Posted by bahurd
(Post 1362416)
There's a Kia part that fits iirc. That said I may have one (Miata part). Last I saw they're going for $75 + shipping. PM me if interested.
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Correct. 0K201-15-930 is gone from all Kia warehouses and dealers according to two different dealers I spoke with.
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1362435)
I think he is talking about the Kia part. I believe there are no more new ones left.
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I came to this thread to give props and thanks. Going the plug and drain route.
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^did you find the kia tensioner? I'm looking for this too.
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Yeah, I found like 5 places selling it. Just google the part number.
I ordered from KiaPartsNow.com. edit: here- https://www.kiapartsnow.com/genuine/...k20115930.html edit2- I'm assuming that these sites are selling parts they actually have in inventory. If I'm wrong, I apologize. Anyway, I placed an order, so I should know soon. I ordered plugs from miatacage.com, I liked that they made them work with two wrench sizes, no allen wrench bullshit. |
Tried ordering a Kia tensioner from a few places a month ago, every place I tried canceled my order.
I ended up just using the $8 belt recommended in another thread thats the right size. Works perfect, no shims needed. |
Oh that's lame.
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I did a little research and found this:
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=502970 I'll do surgery tomorrow and post pictures. Miata PS pumps are 30 bucks a pop and 99.9 percent of deletes start with one. I think converting it from a pump to a pulley is a brilliant and cheap idea. |
Don't need tensioner. Money, time, and space wasted.
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^ I initially used the belt in your writeup, but it was far too tight. With the compressor over an inch away from flush on the rear bolt areas, the belt was already tight.
I'm currently using the next belt size up, with two washers on each a/c compressor bolt, but I still get a small amount of belt slip when the clutch engages. |
It's actually pretty easy, give or take.
1. Remove exhaust 2. Remove bolt holding in PS pump. If you inserted it from the back, this will take 2 minutes. If you inserted it from the front, this will take an hour because of your rad fans. 3. Put the thing in a vise and remove the four bolts on the back with a 12mm socket. I didn't even have to use heat. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3885b46555.jpg 4. The little circular bit doesn't come out. But the housing around it and the little apex seal looking things do. Just flip it over and give a smack on the wheel side and everything flies out. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f762ea29f7.jpg 5. The tube on the side comes off as well with a 10mm socket, but the tube thing isn't a standard size fitting that you can replace with a blockoff plate. Fuck, I just realized I could have done this entire job without removing the PS pump. |
Originally Posted by thumpetto007
(Post 1411972)
^ I initially used the belt in your writeup, but it was far too tight. With the compressor over an inch away from flush on the rear bolt areas, the belt was already tight.
I'm currently using the next belt size up, with two washers on each a/c compressor bolt, but I still get a small amount of belt slip when the clutch engages. |
Yep, none of the Kia places have it in stock. They just cancel your order the next day.
So gutted PS pump seems to be the path forward. |
Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
(Post 1412215)
So gutted PS pump seems to be the path forward.
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See here if NB: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...ng-rack-93138/
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1412282)
That's a waste of energy and of space, but that's like my opinion, man.
Shimming the compressor every time I change the belt seems like a huge pain in the ass. Also, I'm a big stickler for correct belt tension because before I did it my belts would alternate between squealing and snapping. Now they are quiet and last forever. |
Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
(Post 1412310)
What are my other choices besides spending 150 bucks on eBay for a "rare ps idler pulley"?
Shimming the compressor every time I change the belt seems like a huge pain in the ass. Also, I'm a big stickler for correct belt tension because before I did it my belts would alternate between squealing and snapping. Now they are quiet and last forever. |
I have only had two belts in 5 or 6 years. Shimming is just adding a couple of washers. Not a big deal. Especially compared to any other upgrades and maintenance work required to get the car to this state.
I don't want to ever give up all that space there again, too. |
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how do you add shims to the AC compressor while the compressor and belt are installed?
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Very carefully.
shim the top two bolts while above the car, and the bottom two bolts while underneath the car. I did one bolt at a time, with the other bolts loose, but still supporting the weight of the compressor. Literally feel around the area before putting the washers in, and its sort of trial an error. if one washer is too loose at the belt, then take it out, and put two in. Adding all the washers at the same time is so much easier. I probably wasted 20 minutes before figuring that one out. I was able to put two washers in all four locations, and the belt is a little too loose. At higher than idle rpms, the belt squawks/slips briefly. I'll have to try and squeeze three in. I'm sure you could also shim the compressor without a belt on it, then use a belt stretch/install tool like many new oems require. |
I put washers in the front two holes and start the bolts a couple of threads. The nose of the compressor angles towards the crank pulley as the belt pulls upon it slightly. Putting the washers and bolts in the rear positions straightens the compressor and tightens the belt. If too tight or loose, rinse and repeat. Sometimes it just requires washers in the top two positions and not all 4. Sometimes it requires a different length belt (NA6, NA8, NB1, NB2 have compressor, bracket, and pulley differences).
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Ok, that's exactly what I imagined it would consist of. No thanks.
I could definitely see taking that approach if you needed the space occupied by the PS pulley but I don't have that problem. |
I don't really need the space either, but gonna give that method a go this weekend in the name of adding lightness to my porker. ~5lbs is worth like a full second, right...right?! If anything it'll make it that much easier to build a box around my intake, so maybe I do need the space. Would also like to keep a perfectly good P/S pump in working order.
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