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emilio700 08-04-2021 06:14 PM

Supermiata BX1175 Boxmount BBK
 
Announcing the new Supermiata BX1175 Boxmount BBK. Taking pre-orders in a week or two. Later we'll release our separate 3" duct and hose kits. The orange duct you see in this image is a proto (and no it won't fit your brakes, sorry). Production duct will change a little.
Base kit with BP20 pads and straight vane rotors. Upgrades to G-loc pads and directional rotors. Visit the website for current pricing.
https://supermiata.com/Supermiata-bx...brake-kit.aspx Shoot an email to info@949racing.com to be put on our mailing list for updates.

Confirmed fit wheel list:
15x10 +25 949 Racing 6UL
15x10 +25 Konig Dekagram
15x10 +25 Jongbloed Series 500
15x9 +35 Konig Dekagram
15x9 +35 Sparco FF1
15x8 +28 Advan TC4

Because the OEM spindles are lug mounts, we discovered it's overall stiffer to use our double shear boxmount and a lug mount caliper than a cantilevered radial adapter bolted to the spindle ears in single shear. Like our BX11 kit,
the small form factor our our bracket allows a full 3" port directed at the hub underneath the caliper. The lower image is a view down into the backside of the rotor. We also closed up any holes or gaps in the dust shield and hat to force all that air through the vanes and caliper.
On a separate note, we're stoked to have moved all wheel and parts engineering and design in house. That CAD render is 100% in house. Either drawn or for OEM parts, based on a photometric scan to a parasolid. All FEA and fatigue testing, in house.

Superlite 4 piston lug mount calipers
Patented Supermiata Boxmount caliper brackets
G-Loc or Wilwood 7420 (20mm) pads
11x7.5" x 1.1" directional or straight vane rotors
6061 T-6 forged CNC hats
Braided brake hoses

Duct kit will include the duct you see in the pic, proprietary backing plates and all mounting hardware but no hoses. That should come later, maybe October and run somewhere around $200/set
Hose kit will include flange for the nose, hoses, clamps a few other bits and run around $70. That'll also be October or thereabouts.
Offering the duct & hose kits separately for those that need to configure things differently for their build
Combine BX1175, duct and hose kit will give you everything you need to put full time attack brakes adequate for a 500whp car.

Oh yeah, in case you hadn't heard, we have some new wheels coming ;)
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LukeG 08-04-2021 06:18 PM

Yay!!! :party:

As soon as you open the pre-order I'm in.

Tran 08-04-2021 06:55 PM

Looks mega. The lack of previous kits offering something wider than 0.81” baffled me.

emilio700 08-04-2021 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tran (Post 1605783)
Looks mega. The lack of previous kits offering something wider than 0.81” baffled me.

That's solely because there is a single 11.75x.81 Wilwood rotor that retails for like $35. It's a piece of crap but everyone used it for the last 15 years because it was cheap. We would have our own, much heavier wall directionals made but even those were limited. TSE's kit used the .81 but had the 20mm thick pads which was nice. We ran those on our cars. Still not enough rotor though. Our new 1.1" directionals are much thicker wall than the cheapie 11.75x.81 Wilwoods. While the weight may scare some away, I have learned to love thermal mass when it comes to brakes.

msm650 08-04-2021 09:42 PM

Maybe I missed it in here and on the site, but how much are replacement rotors and are they custom made for you guys?

emilio700 08-04-2021 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by msm650 (Post 1605799)
Maybe I missed it in here and on the site, but how much are replacement rotors and are they custom made for you guys?

Spare rotors product pages not built yet. Custom, US made. About $250/pair for straight vane, around $310/pair for directional vane.

These rotors are substantially thicker wall than any other NA/NB BBK on the market. Add the 3" ducts when they become available and both pad and rotor life will be better than anything else available.

swimomatic 08-04-2021 11:26 PM

Will 15x9 6UL with a 5mm spacer fit? I'd imagine this isn't what you'd call huge!? But just wanted to check.

thebeerbaron 08-05-2021 12:37 AM

You said the forthcoming ducts won't fit my brakes, but will they fit your BX11 kits or is that a separate design?

emilio700 08-05-2021 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by swimomatic (Post 1605806)
Will 15x9 6UL with a 5mm spacer fit? I'd imagine this isn't what you'd call huge!? But just wanted to check.

I forget exactly but I think t was more like 10 or 15mm. Basically a no go.


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 1605811)
You said the forthcoming ducts won't fit my brakes, but will they fit your BX11 kits or is that a separate design?

Our duct bolts to our bracket and flows through a gap that no other bracket has. BX11 will have a different duct. Same basic style and still 3" though.

yossi126 08-05-2021 03:32 AM

Do you have a stock 16 incher for a test fit?

The Australian 08-05-2021 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by yossi126 (Post 1605826)
Do you have a stock 16 incher for a test fit?

yes please

msm650 08-05-2021 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1605800)
Spare rotors product pages not built yet. Custom, US made. About $250/pair for straight vane, around $310/pair for directional vane.

These rotors are substantially thicker wall than any other NA/NB BBK on the market. Add the 3" ducts when they become available and both pad and rotor life will be better than anything else available.

Awesome! Thanks.

emilio700 08-05-2021 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by yossi126 (Post 1605826)
Do you have a stock 16 incher for a test fit?

I don't think so, sorry. You will have to download the template once we upload it to the site.

thebeerbaron 08-05-2021 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1605823)
BX11 will have a different duct. Same basic style and still 3" though.

Can we get a picture of all your ducts in a row?

emilio700 08-05-2021 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by thebeerbaron (Post 1605867)
Can we get a picture of all your ducts in a row?

Joke aside, we'll publish full images of the ducts when we start taking orders for them. Some details we want to keep under wraps until then.

emilio700 08-09-2021 01:04 AM

BX1175 Wheel Clearance Template

Some additional wheel fitment info added to the product page.

LukeG 08-26-2021 09:38 PM

Expected day these are going on sale? Didn't see a button to add them to my cart yet.

emilio700 08-26-2021 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1607203)
Expected day these are going on sale? Didn't see a button to add them to my cart yet.

As of today, we think we can ship the first kits around the 2nd week of September. Like everything else, we're waiting on various suppliers.

LukeG 08-26-2021 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1607208)
As of today, we think we can ship the first kits around the 2nd week of September. Like everything else, we're waiting on various suppliers.

Yeah, supply chains are a disaster right now. Christmas is going to be a mess this year.

emilio700 08-26-2021 11:37 PM

Yup.

"It may take twice as long to ship your product but at least shipping cost has doubled"

New normal

emilio700 09-09-2021 10:13 PM

Now taking orders!
 
Now taking orders for the first shipment going out Sept 20.
Place order before 6PM PST Saturday Sept 11 and get a $50 rebate!


https://supermiata.com/Supermiata-bx...brake-kit.aspx


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shindul 09-09-2021 10:32 PM

Hell ya just ordered.

LukeG 09-09-2021 11:11 PM

How much more do these weigh per wheel than your box mount 11's with light weight rotors?

emilio700 09-10-2021 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1608106)
How much more do these weigh per wheel than your box mount 11's with light weight rotors?

Haven't made that comparison but the BX1175 are going to be significantly heavier than the BX11. Caliper is about twice the size and the rotor has about 40% more thermal mass. When designing the BX1175, weight was not much of a consideration.

Curious though, why do you ask?

Jumpster74 09-10-2021 03:08 AM

Truly a massive pair. Orders in.

LukeG 09-10-2021 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1608109)
Haven't made that comparison but the BX1175 are going to be significantly heavier than the BX11. Caliper is about twice the size and the rotor has about 40% more thermal mass. When designing the BX1175, weight was not much of a consideration.

Curious though, why do you ask?

I just ordered your BX11's and lightweight rotors for an Exocet. 300whp with an LFX on E85. Car weighs right around 1700 lbs and has Xidas, RB swaybar up front and AR1's in 275 width all around. Weight is a big factor for me on this car. Curious if you think I should be running the 11's or 11.75's. I have the FM little big brake kit on the car currently with the Wilwood rears (has a parking brake) and was planning on keeping the rears. I'm fine paying more to upgrade, was just thinking it would be nice to save some weight if possible.

turbofan 09-10-2021 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1608119)
I just ordered your BX11's and lightweight rotors for an Exocet. 300whp with an LFX on E85. Car weighs right around 1700 lbs and has Xidas, RB swaybar up front and AR1's in 275 width all around. Weight is a big factor for me on this car. Curious if you think I should be running the 11's or 11.75's. I have the FM little big brake kit on the car currently with the Wilwood rears (has a parking brake) and was planning on keeping the rears. I'm fine paying more to upgrade, was just thinking it would be nice to save some weight if possible.

The BX11 will stop that just fine, but you'll be going through pads with that kind of power and grip on track. Sounds like you have room for the BX1175, and the huge pads will last much longer.

BX1175 for that build.

emilio700 09-10-2021 11:07 AM

LukeG,

Better to directly contact Ed for recommendations than rely on me through a forum.

LukeG 09-10-2021 11:18 AM

Thanks Guys. I'm upgrading the order to the big uns. Cheers!

emilio700 09-11-2021 12:45 PM

BX1175 wheel clearance
 
We just updated the template on our site. It's a vector file so those of you with 3D printers and the ability to draw in CAD can turn it into a physical part. We'll be uploading an STL file so folks can print a part without needing to draw anything. We'll also have a loaner wheel clearance tool that we can ship out.

https://supermiata.com/supermiata/Su...l_Template.pdf

We're updating the confirmed wheel list as we can get our hands on other brands of 15x9 and 15x9.5. Visit our website for the latest wheel clearance info.

The Australian 09-12-2021 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1608192)
We're updating the confirmed wheel list as we can get our hands on other brands of 15x9 and 15x9.5. Visit our website for the latest wheel clearance info.

Is there a wheel list, or only the template at this point? I have hunted through the pages a few times, and don't see a list of wheels that have been checked for clearance.

emilio700 09-12-2021 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by The Australian (Post 1608236)
Is there a wheel list, or only the template at this point? I have hunted through the pages a few times, and don't see a list of wheels that have been checked for clearance.

Only confirmed wheel is the 15x10 6UL. We'll add wheels as we can get them here to test.

The template is accurate. If you have a printer (paper) and a pair of scissors, you can check your wheel.

turbofan 09-15-2021 01:23 PM

Great news, @The Australian , the 15x9 Dekagram fits with no spacers needed.

We are gathering more wheels to test fit for those that don't want to use the brake template.

Ed

turbofan 09-15-2021 01:53 PM

Since the 15x9 Dekagram fits without a spacer, we expect this to clear ALL long-spoke design Advanti and Konig (Storm S1 & S2, Helix, Dial In) and Jongbloeds too. Might even clear those same wheels in the 15x8 +25 - we think it will. 15x9 Countergram and Hexaform, maybe.

EDIT: Since this post, we tested a 15x9 Storm S1 and it will require 8mm of spacer to clear. I won't keep updating this, so check the product page for the most up-to-date list.

If someone has one of those wheels they want to let us test fit, shoot us an email at info@949racing.com.

Quigs 09-16-2021 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1608499)
the 15x9 Dekagram fits with no spacers needed.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

shindul 09-23-2021 08:55 PM

Christmas come early :)
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emilio700 10-05-2021 05:03 PM

For those that want to check brake clearance with their wheels and might be intimidated by the need to print the template and check that way, we're offering an alternate solution with a simple fit tool. You can order a physical 3D printed buck in the shape of the brake to put in your wheel for fit check. Send it back and we refund the cost of the tool. You can also use the template on the product page to create your own tool if you have a 3D printer at home.
https://supermiata.com/bx1175-BBK-Wheel-Fit-Tool.aspx

https://supermiata.com/images/produc...l_fit_tool.jpg

HarryB 10-06-2021 04:06 AM

Uploaded an stl to Thingiverse for people that want to 3D print their own template but are not keen on designing.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4983138

If this is an issue in terms of IP please let me know and I will remove it.

emilio700 10-06-2021 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by HarryB (Post 1610128)
Uploaded an stl to Thingiverse for people that want to 3D print their own template but are not keen on designing.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4983138

If this is an issue in terms of IP please let me know and I will remove it.

Not a problem and thanks. We'll link to it on our site.

emilio700 11-08-2021 01:27 PM

Added to confirmed fitments without spacers. No surprises with these two but its nice to confirm.

15x11 Jongbloed Series 500

15x10 +25 Konig Dekagram

emilio700 12-29-2021 02:20 AM


stevos555 12-29-2021 10:58 AM

7 Attachment(s)
Just tried 11.75 template with new 9" wheels from Phil's offering and it fits without spacers - the Joengbloods 15x9 hits the lip and needs a 5mm spacer (already confirmed)

https://planet-miata.com/ke-motorsports-pro-wheels/

while these wheels clear - the balancing weights if placed towards the inside lip will be an issue. likely 5mm spacer needed.

emilio700 12-30-2021 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by stevos555 (Post 1614727)
Just tried 11.75 template with new 9" wheels from Phil's offering and it fits without spacers - the Joengbloods 15x9 hits the lip and needs a 5mm spacer (already confirmed)

https://planet-miata.com/ke-motorsports-pro-wheels/

while these wheels clear - the balancing weights if placed towards the inside lip will be an issue. likely 5mm spacer needed.

Fitment notes added to list. Thanks!
You need at least 3 mm clearance to any part of the brake.

The Australian 12-30-2021 03:55 PM

Duct ETA?
 
How far away is the date when an order can include the ducts?

emilio700 12-30-2021 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by The Australian (Post 1614819)
How far away is the date when an order can include the ducts?

No ETA on ducts yet. Still tweaking the design. Hose kit will be available soon.

ozbrock 08-31-2022 09:35 PM

I figured ~8 months is a reasonable amount of time to ask if you have any updates on the duct/hose kits?

turbofan 08-31-2022 09:45 PM

You would think that, and you'd be right, but still no ETA. Final (hopefully) prototypes should be arriving very soon, and if they check out then we go to production.

emilio700 08-31-2022 10:49 PM

It's taken us a few tries to get the ducts fitting the way we wanted. It's proven to be quite a challenge. As with most things these days, longer lead times to get prototypes and production started so it's taking more time than we had hoped. Thanks for your patience everyone.

ozbrock 09-01-2022 06:55 PM

I have the patience of a saint and love to support you guys, so I will continue to patiently wait! Thanks for the update.

Quigs 09-01-2022 07:46 PM

Patiently waiting as well, but you can't rush perfection!

emilio700 11-14-2022 09:15 PM

Ducks!
 
Quick update: Brake duct design is finalized. Production started though the lead time is a bit long. We should have them in stock early March.
Working on a short video to show the ducts up close. Should be uploaded in a week or so.


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