suspension advice
As a note for those considering ELBJs or offset lower bushings to increase front camber: If you are going without power steering, using these camber adders will make you run a lot of caster, increasing steering effort. With ELBJs, Thumpetto was only able to get down to like 6-6.5* caster, and on my car with offset front lower delrin bushings I'm stuck at right around 5.5*.
I'm totally happy with steering effort at 5.5*, but some may not be.
I'm totally happy with steering effort at 5.5*, but some may not be.
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yes definitely don't need both. I'd suggest you either pull the bushings or the ELBJ's. I can easily reach 3* of camber or more with just the offset bushings. Aidan was over 4* with the ELBJs.
I got the offset bushings because they were cheaper than ELBJs but if I were doing it again, I'd just go with ELBJs.
@concealer404 Yeah, i did the same thing for a while, but when I got my new alignment this winter I had him minimize camber and I definitely like it better at 5.5 than at 6.5*.
yes definitely don't need both. I'd suggest you either pull the bushings or the ELBJ's. I can easily reach 3* of camber or more with just the offset bushings. Aidan was over 4* with the ELBJs.
I got the offset bushings because they were cheaper than ELBJs but if I were doing it again, I'd just go with ELBJs.
@concealer404 Yeah, i did the same thing for a while, but when I got my new alignment this winter I had him minimize camber and I definitely like it better at 5.5 than at 6.5*.
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I'll see if it bothers me on the new setup. Other people have called it a little bit "high effort" i suppose, but it's the easiest-steering project car i've had in a decade, so it doesn't bug me.
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As a note for those considering ELBJs or offset lower bushings to increase front camber: If you are going without power steering, using these camber adders will make you run a lot of caster, increasing steering effort. With ELBJs, Thumpetto was only able to get down to like 6-6.5* caster, and on my car with offset front lower delrin bushings I'm stuck at right around 5.5*.
I'm totally happy with steering effort at 5.5*, but some may not be.
I'm totally happy with steering effort at 5.5*, but some may not be.
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Just got a rear sway with end links and bushings (and all the nuts and bolts) for 20 at the pick and pull. Solid advice that was. Thanks guys.
Itried to find an unmolested front bumper to replace my damaged one but no luck. Every one was torn up.
edit: was from a 94, so probably 11mm. I'll see how I like it vs the 16mm FM bar.
Itried to find an unmolested front bumper to replace my damaged one but no luck. Every one was torn up.
edit: was from a 94, so probably 11mm. I'll see how I like it vs the 16mm FM bar.
Last edited by AlwaysBroken; May 3, 2017 at 04:59 PM.
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Update:
- Stock rear sway bar feels much less twitchy than the 16mm FM one. Handling has an almost stock feel to it. Car telegraphs way before it breaks traction.
- Cant' get below 5.3 caster, am running 2 front, 1.6 rear camber, alignment feels really good. I should have gotten the car aligned earlier.
- Even with the depowered rack, 5.3 caster isn't as ridiculously bad as I had expected.
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Glad you like it. Sounds like a great street alignment.
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