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Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 01:55 PM

Tochigi Fuji Diff - Worth $200?
 
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I have the opportunity to purchase a TF diff from a 2003, along with axles, no housing included, for $200 shipped. Is it worth the money to dink around with? Or will the cone tab break too quickly for me to have fun? It's an 81k mile diff, so I wonder if it's a "Well it's lasted this long, so it must be okay for a while" or a "81k? That's gonna blow soon" kind of thing. Thanks.

18psi 07-19-2016 01:59 PM

considering it will cost like 60 to ship, yeah that's a deal if it's not broken already

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1347499)
considering it will cost like 60 to ship, yeah that's a deal if it's not broken already

I'm on the other side of the state, but I do suppose those axles will make for a tough ship. Do you know where he might look to find the tab that's typically broken? Where it's broken off of?

psyber_0ptix 07-19-2016 02:14 PM

I have the diff unit along with the ring and pinion just sitting in a box outside. if you want it, come get it. lol

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1347504)
I have the diff unit along with the ring and pinion just sitting in a box outside. if you want it, come get it. lol

Really? It's that bad? Or is yours shot?

Savington 07-19-2016 02:25 PM

I think I'd be inclined to spend the extra $300 and get a Torsen just so I didn't have to do the entire job over again when the T-F inevitably breaks :P

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1347508)
I think I'd be inclined to spend the extra $300 and get a Torsen just so I didn't have to do the entire job over again when the T-F inevitably breaks :P

The only reason I'm considering it is because I'm on a highschooler summer job budget, but if the Torsen is the way to go, that's what I'll do.

Savington 07-19-2016 02:33 PM

If you are ultra-budget critical, the Rx7 diff is what I'd look at. They can be found in junkyards for around the same price as the T-F, and while they aren't quite as good, they won't break eventually. I bought an Rx7 diff with my food money in college, and it worked fairly well for the price. I ended up trading it to someone for a Torsen eventually, though.

Alternatively, try to find someone with a loose Torsen unit which is less valuable than a unit that's already set in a pumpkin with gears.

The T-F is like putting $200 on the shelf above your fireplace and leaving the window open on a breezy evening. The cash is on the shelf right now, but it's going to go in the fire at some point.

psyber_0ptix 07-19-2016 02:34 PM

It was a spare diff that I used the housing for an OSGiken and 3.63 gears. I never ran it. I wouldn't run it.

When do you NEED a torsen by? I will have a whole drop and swap subframe/arms/4.1 torsen diff available in the coming weeks. Just provide your own 1.8 Driveshaft if you don't already have one.

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1347512)
If you are ultra-budget critical, the Rx7 diff is what I'd look at. They can be found in junkyards for around the same price as the T-F, and while they aren't quite as good, they won't break eventually. I bought an Rx7 diff with my food money in college, and it worked fairly well for the price. I ended up trading it to someone for a Torsen eventually, though.

Alternatively, try to find someone with a loose Torsen unit which is less valuable than a unit that's already set in a pumpkin with gears.

The T-F is like putting $200 on the shelf above your fireplace and leaving the window open on a breezy evening. The cash is on the shelf right now, but it's going to go in the fire at some point.

Interesting, I'll look into that. Thank you.


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1347513)
It was a spare diff that I used the housing for an OSGiken and 3.63 gears. I never ran it. I wouldn't run it.

When do you NEED a torsen by? I will have a whole drop and swap subframe/arms/4.1 torsen diff available in the coming weeks. Just provide your own 1.8 Driveshaft if you don't already have one.

My open 1.6 has been on turbo for 1k easy miles strong, and I have a backup 1.6 VLSD for when the open goes. So I don't need it right now. Do you have an estimated price point?

psyber_0ptix 07-19-2016 02:58 PM

Probably going rate for the diff, but you can decide what you want to do with the subframe, control arms, knuckles, axles if you don't want to keep them. Where are you located.

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1347520)
Probably going rate for the diff, but you can decide what you want to do with the subframe, control arms, knuckles, axles if you don't want to keep them. Where are you located.

I'm up in Michigan.

thumpetto007 07-19-2016 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1347512)
The T-F is like putting $200 on the shelf above your fireplace and leaving the window open on a breezy evening. The cash is on the shelf right now, but it's going to go in the fire at some point.

I like this analogy.

rleete 07-19-2016 04:27 PM

What's the going rate on OBX torsen diffs these days?

Edit: Holy shit, $360 and up on ebay.

EricJ 07-19-2016 05:34 PM

It would depend on what you're planning on doing with it. If you're driving on the street and some AutoX in an NA car, it's better than an open diff.

I had a TF with a 4.3 that I AutoX'd and did track days for 2 or 3 years. I only pulled out 1 small tab. It continued to work. The TF is lighter than a Torsen.
... but, the Torsen will last longer and it puts down more power to the wheel with traction. 2.5 to 1 rather than the TFs 2 to 1.
I found a used Torsen w/ a 4.3 and put it in.

Bodhimeister 07-19-2016 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by EricJ (Post 1347565)
It would depend on what you're planning on doing with it. If you're driving on the street and some AutoX in an NA car, it's better than an open diff.

I had a TF with a 4.3 that I AutoX'd and did track days for 2 or 3 years. I only pulled out 1 small tab. It continued to work. The TF is lighter than a Torsen.
... but, the Torsen will last longer and it puts down more power to the wheel with traction. 2.5 to 1 rather than the TFs 2 to 1.
I found a used Torsen w/ a 4.3 and put it in.

I believe I'll just wait for a Torsen then. I'm FI, pushing 160, hopefully 200 soon. No sense in buying a band aid.


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