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Old 12-24-2011, 07:24 PM   #21
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And here I thought there'd be at least an appreciation of a car built with driving dynamics as a key consideration. But no, no one can move past the image the car projects nor its perceived demographic.

It's the Miata all over again.
I'd say more of the opposite. This car is going to sell like crazy, to all the fan bois who will rape any chance this car had at good driving dynamics (slammed with 100lb wheels).
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That is not the production model.


This thread is a needless duplicate of the BRZ thread and is terrible. I hate you guys.
I agree. My thread is better.
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:39 PM   #23
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And here I thought there'd be at least an appreciation of a car built with driving dynamics as a key consideration. But no, no one can move past the image the car projects nor its perceived demographic.

It's the Miata all over again.
+1
Its rear wheel drive.
It has a somewhat torquey engine
Its relatively light
It looks decent.


People driving na miatas saying THIS thing looks ugly???????
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I mean holy ****


Does it get any uglier?


Obviously most on here don't look like this anymore, but you can't compare a modded to **** miata to a stock brz or ft86 or whatever it is then.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:53 PM   #25
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I really really want to drive one, and I really want it to be good. I think i'm setting myself up for a disappointment :(
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:07 PM   #26
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As long as Toyota tells the Scion division what this car needs to do I think we'll be alright. I really hope Scion doesn't ---- this up. I mean look at the tC.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #27
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I will never buy a Scion. And I know a lot of people who feel the same way.
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I'm one of those. I refuse.
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:26 PM   #29
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I think I know just as many who say they would never buy a Miata...
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I'm not one of those. I want.
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:19 PM   #31
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I think I know just as many who say they would never buy a Miata...
But for all the wrong reasons. I will never buy a scion for all the right reasons.
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:27 PM   #32
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I'd say more of the opposite. This car is going to sell like crazy, to all the fan bois who will rape any chance this car had at good driving dynamics (slammed with 100lb wheels).
So, it's the 240SX all over again then. lol

Really, I want to like this car. I agree about the fanbois and the straight-billed-hat crowd ruining all of them, and it's unfortunate. There will be those owners that bought it (the Scion or the Subaru version) for the right reasons, though, and I think it's those guys who'll get their money's worth.
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But for all the wrong reasons. I will never buy a scion for all the right reasons.
I have a friend who drives a G37 and loves it, but swears he will never own a Nissan.

I guess I don't get it.

What's wrong with scion?
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #34
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Have you seen them?
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I haven't seen the fr-s in person yet. But from the pictures/vids it looks an awful lot like the Toyota 86 to me. I don't think it looks all that bad TBH.
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I'm talking more about the other ---- boxes sporting the Scion name. I'm not saying the FR-S will be junk, in fact I think it will be win. But in the end I would still have to say I own a Scion, which I cannot do.

There are plenty of things wrong with Scion:

1. They aim for the generation of car owners that cares only about how cool neon lights and horribly sounding fart cans are.

2. They make FWD "sports" cars.

3. They took the soul away from Toyota. They have not had a true sports car since the MR-S.
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If I cared what people thought of me when I said what car I owned, I wouldn't be driving a Miata, and I would be missing out on driving a great little sportscar.

That's kinda how I feel about the FR-S. IF it is really good, there will be that small circle of car buffs who understand what the car is, and understand that it doesn't matter that its got a Scion badge here in the US.

At least 2 out of your 3 gripes are addressed with the FR-S.

Do I think Scion is an awful marketing ploy to get younger drivers into Toyotas? Absolutely.

Do I think it would stop me from buying a potentially great little Toyota sports car just because of that? Not really. I'm just happy they decided to offer it in the states at all. If it wasn't for the Scion brand over here, they probably wouldn't have.
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Nah I think if Scion wasn't here we would still have rwd sports cars made by toyota. I mean look at the amazing awesomeness they had back in the late 80s and 90s.

I don't care that other people would know I drive a scion... I would care that I know I drive a Scion. I get made fun of everyday at work because of my Miata. And told to buy a real car/mans car/etc...
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to be honest i like it, the sticker price and how much they are selling it for is a little more then i think its worth but in a couple years I could see myself picking a pre owned one up.
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to be honest i like it, the sticker price and how much they are selling it for is a little more then i think its worth but in a couple years I could see myself picking a pre owned one up.
oh, what a surprise! you're commenting on another old thread. I can't wait to see what you have for sale.
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