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emilio700 06-06-2016 11:46 PM

949 Racing 6UL Flow Forming video
 

Hammerhead 06-06-2016 11:56 PM

"An error occurred..." No can see video.

emilio700 06-07-2016 12:29 AM

Fixed.

NiklasFalk 06-07-2016 02:01 AM

It's amazing that this can be done with the precision/thickness needed for wheels.
It's a little more to it than spinning a water dish.

Ben 06-07-2016 12:40 PM

Thanks for sharing! That's really awesome.

y8s 06-07-2016 12:57 PM

That's pretty cool.
When I was in the lighting industry, they had numerically controlled spinning machines to make architectural downlight reflectors, but they were starting with sheet stock and didn't use heat.

emilio700 06-07-2016 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1336991)
That's pretty cool.
When I was in the lighting industry, they had numerically controlled spinning machines to make architectural downlight reflectors, but they were starting with sheet stock and didn't use heat.

Cold forming works just fine on some 2000 and 6000 series alloys when they are in T-2 or so. Thin enough and they don't heat up and work harden. Cast wheels are made of A356.2. They're not heat treated at this step. Later they're brought to T6 condition in baths then final machined then paint.
In theory at least a wheel of 7075 T6 would be really strong but it doesn't flow. So any wheel from 7075 would have to be cut from billet. Billet wheels cut from forged blocks have stress risers all over and tend to crack over time. Near net die forged requires the alloy to flow hence the use of 356 series alloys. Rays used near net forging in several of their wheels. So the blank looks more or less like our casting blank. Very little final machining needs so stress risers can be controlled or eliminated. TE37's are nigh indestructible for this reason.

CalebMars 06-07-2016 08:11 PM

Super interesting! Are they coated and painted at the same facility, or is that done elsewhere?

emilio700 06-07-2016 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by CalebMars (Post 1337053)
Super interesting! Are they coated and painted at the same facility, or is that done elsewhere?

Same factory.

Junkwhale 06-08-2016 01:09 AM

So basically 6ULs are made by robots with flamethrowers. Could they be any cooler?

z31maniac 06-08-2016 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1337003)
TE37's are nigh indestructible for this reason.

Explains the $800/each price point.

Know anything about the insanely light TWS wheels?

emilio700 06-08-2016 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1337140)
Explains the $800/each price point.

Know anything about the insanely light TWS wheels?

"TSW"
Rotary forged = Flow Formed = Spun Forged

18psi 06-08-2016 11:17 AM

Really cool stuff.

So when are 15x12's coming out? :D

shuiend 06-08-2016 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1337162)
Really cool stuff.

So when are 15x12's coming out? :D

Who needs 15x12's? What we really need are 15x15's.

Girz0r 06-08-2016 11:24 AM

I'm waiting for 15x7 wheels so I can have something for my future scion ia. :giggle: (yes, it's happening later this year)

z31maniac 06-09-2016 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1337161)
"TSW"
Rotary forged = Flow Formed = Spun Forged

No.

TWS

TWS Motorsport T66-F - 17x9.0J +37 / 5x100 - 56.1mm Bore - BRZ/FRS Competition Spec


TSW wheels aren't that light. These TWS wheels are even lighter than Weds/Volks/etc.

emilio700 06-09-2016 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by z31maniac (Post 1337373)
No.

TWS

TWS Motorsport T66-F - 17x9.0J +37 / 5x100 - 56.1mm Bore - BRZ/FRS Competition Spec


TSW wheels aren't that light. These TWS wheels are even lighter than Weds/Volks/etc.

Forged, $840 each

18psi 06-09-2016 10:29 AM

3500 for a set and they're not even in stock. must be a lot of ballers out there.

and they're only like 1-2lb less than rpf's or something

zellers88 06-09-2016 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1337409)
3500 for a set and they're not even in stock. must be a lot of ballers out there.

and they're only like 1-2lb less than rpf's or something


Weight = ~7.00 to ~8.00kg
More like double RPF1's weight, unless that website is wrong.

18psi 06-09-2016 01:31 PM

it's in KG, not LB

rpf 17x9 is 16lb if I remember correct


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