Got my 10 year warranty15x9 Advanti wheels ! HOLY SMOKES!
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Everything from the way they are packaged, to the way they were shipped(2wheels banded together) is pure awesomeness. I've bought wheels from enkei,tsw,949 racing and these blow them all away.Came with the 10YEAR WARRANTY card info in the box.
The concave--insane.. Wait time, 3 days. Not the bull crap 10 month wait for the 949 wheels which are a heavier lesser quality wheel. Finish.. Perfect.. Every last one of them Weight.. My 15x9 12 lbs... Literally awesome the technology that has gone into them! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397014633 http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...ps28caf07e.jpg More photos tomorrow |
sweet. Looks like they use them on F1 cars so they must be the best.
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Originally Posted by blkmkiii
(Post 1119716)
Everything from the way they are packaged, to the way they were shipped(2wheels banded together) is pure awesomeness. I've bought wheels from enkei,tsw,949 racing and these blow them all away.Came with the 10YEAR WARRANTY card info in the box.
The concave--insane.. Wait time, 3 days. Not the bull crap 10 month wait for the 949 wheels which are a heavier lesser quality wheel. Finish.. Perfect.. Every last one of them Weight.. My 15x9 12 lbs... Literally awesome the technology that has gone into them! More photos tomorrow With that aside, this is a VERY exciting year for wheels; and I am glad to know these are viable! |
These look like nice wheels. While I can understand being frustrated by a vendor being out of stock of an item one wants, there's no need to bash that vendor - especially when that vendor is the reason you are able to buy the product you are buying.
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I googled it, but I couldn't find where scoops of awesome were used in the flow forming process.
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Originally Posted by natedawg
(Post 1119740)
sweet. Looks like they use them on F1 cars so they must be the best.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1119786)
I googled it, but I couldn't find where scoops of awesome were used in the flow forming process.
http://advantiwheel.com/current-wheels/storm-s1-matte-black/ |
How come the spokes are outside the lip of the wheel? That looks dumb.
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OH i see it now:
SIZES: 15 x 7, 15 x 8, 15 x 9 FINISHES: Matte Black and Matte Grey SHOWN FINISH: Matte Black BOLT PATTERNS: 4×100 TECHNOLOGY: Scoops of Awesome btw, could the manufacturer provide less information about their own wheels or what? |
You want pictures of the awesome scoops or what? Looks pretty specific to me dawg
I mean its right there: scoops of awesome |
I don't like the spokes outside the rim either. Looks like it takes it beyond the tire's rim protector -- makes the wheel susceptible to damage. I assume this was needed to achieve a concave "look."
Other than that, looks like a nice wheel. Made by a Malaysian wheel manufacturing conglomerate that, according to their website, recently made some kind of acquisition of or from Enkei. |
YHI is a big company.
:: YHI International Limited :: Majority shareholder in OZ of Italy, which actually designs and produces the forged magnesium F1 wheel used by Mercedes. YHI has the luxury of attaching whichever brand they own/license to the F1 name. Naturally they chose their own house Advanti brand. Still, YHI has access to cutting edge wheel tech. No doubt a well designed, engineered and manufactured wheel. The style doesn't do much for me but you can't argue with the price and weight. |
I can't see how the average tire jockey would negotiate around those spokes with his tire machine.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1119991)
YHI is a big company.
:: YHI International Limited :: Majority shareholder in OZ of Italy, which actually designs and produces the forged magnesium F1 wheel used by Mercedes. YHI has the luxury of attaching whichever brand they own/license to the F1 name. Naturally they chose their own house Advanti brand. Still, YHI has access to cutting edge wheel tech. No doubt a well designed, engineered and manufactured wheel. The style doesn't do much for me but you can't argue with the price and weight. Emilio = classy guy. Op = not so much |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1120026)
Emilio = classy guy.
Op = not so much That said, I do like the way they look and it's awesome that technology allows me to afford wheels like this. Same can be said about my current wheels as well. Get us some pics on your ride, op! |
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What technology? They took a picture of the volk ce28 and made it less cool.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397075919 |
Originally Posted by MicaCeli
(Post 1120041)
What technology? They took a picture of the volk ce28 and made it less cool.
http://kcjrphoto.smugmug.com/Cars/MI.../IMG1617-L.jpg |
I still laugh every time i see "RAVS ENG."
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1120057)
Actually YHI's other brand Konig did that about 2 years ago. Stamping "Forged" into a cast wheel FTW.
The Konig Dial's looks marginally better than these Advanti's but none of them look that great. I'm sticking with my RPF1's. |
Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 1120068)
Wait....they're all super proud of this flow cast technology...so they stamp it "Forged"????
It's rather like saying they hate the new Corvette because another division of GM once made the Pontiac Aztec |
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Originally Posted by blkmkiii
(Post 1119716)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397014633
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397084613 More photos tomorrow http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ass02_biga.jpg :dunno: |
Weight and specs are great. Not a fan of the styling though. Looks like one of the $99 wheels at Sears
Some mounted pictures from the goodwin website: http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/download/file.php?id=1518 http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/download/file.php?id=1519 http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/download/file.php?id=1490 http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/download/file.php?id=1492 http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/download/file.php?id=1487 |
They look pretty sick on the red car, but I wouldn't go for it just because of the look. I love the 6UL because the style is form following function -- no extra frou frou. These are really nice though, and a great price.
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Originally Posted by Good-Win Racing LLC
(Post 1120071)
No, they are using another wheel, a picture of the discontinued cast Konig Flatout, that was made in a different factory (in Thailand), to tar and feather the new flow formed wheels made by YHI in China.
It's rather like saying they hate the new Corvette because another division of GM once made the Pontiac Aztec Tar and feathering would be passing judgment, which I didn't do. I also didn't say I hated anything or cast aspersions at either brand. Just some lampooning in the true spirit of mt.net. :giggle:. As you were |
Emilio,
It is unfortunate that the OP tossed a brick in your direction, certainly that was unnecessary. And I appreciate your informative comments about the connection with OZ. But the crap with the Flatout wheel is just untimely crap intended to do precisely what it did, call it tar and feather, call it confuse and befuddle, it's equally unnecessary and equally irrelevant to discussion of the wheels in the thread. The fact the poster immediately after your comments were made WAS CONFUSED into thinking you were talking about the new flow formed wheels at issue in this thread is proof enough of the impact. I do agree all that crap with 'RAVS' was CRAZY stupid, and fired off my own letter to Konig about it at the time...but that was long ago. Not that they care too much about a small vendor like us, but apparently they got it from all directions and thought better of it immediately, killing off production of the wheels sourced out of Thailand with that nonsense (Flatout, Spooled, might have been more I didn't know about or have forgotten). But again, many moons ago....hashed out and laughed about in threads here long ago. So how is any of that history relevant to these wheels ...if your intent is not to somehow cast aspirations using that history? Just own it, don't deny the obvious. OP pissed you off and you fired back with the ammo you had, but it's stale ammo. It's just not relevant to these wheels, not the same factory, not the same production methods, and your understanding of the ownership of Konig is also not accurate. |
Originally Posted by Good-Win Racing LLC
(Post 1120119)
The fact the poster immediately after your comments were made WAS CONFUSED into thinking you were talking about the new flow formed wheels at issue in this thread is proof enough of the impact.
That said, the fact that they stamped "FORGED" on gravity cast wheels is actually worse than if they'd stamped it on the flow formed wheels. Neither case would have any bearing on the actual quality of the new wheels, but stretching the truth even further reflects poorly on the manufacturer. For what it's worth, I like the idea of the new wheels. The technology is good, the strength/weight should be good, and the price is good. I just find the looks very unattractive, and I don't understand why they'd introduce 2 new wheels, under different labels, in the same sizes, with the same technology, in almost exactly the same style. |
Originally Posted by Good-Win Racing LLC
(Post 1120119)
...get over it.
.. and I drive a Corvette. Didn't much appreciate the Aztec though. Not sure what that says about me. |
All that other stuff aside, what about the comment about the spoke ends hanging up on a tire machine? It does look like if the blade has any sort of back angle to it, it could hit those ribs. Aren't some machines built like that?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
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Emilio = classy guy.
Op = not so much |
Call me old-fashioned, but this industrial designer hates the spoke design on the Advantis, more specifically, the integration of the spoke to barrel (or lack of ;)). Otherwise, it's a very nicely designed/built wheel, regardless of the price.
-Zach |
considering the shop that just mounted tires to my stock wheels couldn't do it without scuffing the edge, i can't imagine what they'd do to these.
but hell, they don't look awful, they are well priced, and light to boot. |
Wow so much #swag in the OP
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1120126)
Didn't much appreciate the Aztec though. Not sure what that says about me.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397388881 |
Also not liking that protruding spoke design. It seems to me that the spokes would get in the way of the tool arm, and in the way of the tire bead as it rolls on and off the wheel.
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Advantis are great. I had a $300 set off eBay 10 years ago. Super light and very strong.
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... And if you want to go to a good tire mounter, go to one of those donk places.
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We are not having the slightest challenge putting tires on them, can't imagine a tire shop so incompetent that they would have issue getting tires on these. We have other choices with real low drop centers that can be some challenge, and with those choices you can find some notes about them in the product description on our site, but this is not one of those wheels that's a challenge to mount.
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They would need some fine tunning IMO, model isn't bad. Don't like the blend of the spoke, nor center. They are light though and in stock...
We're they inspired form McLaren P1 wheels ? Less spoke since the wheels are smaller.. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397731582 |
If the spokes blended into the lip better they would actually look nice. I'm a 949 fan boy though. His wheels are so popular I didn't order them, everyone has them. :) Got some 17lbs 15x8's coming in because I'm a ricer. Emilio getting bashed on about delivery time on a wheel size he pioneered lol STFU OP.
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I don't mind the look. It's nice to have options.
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Local gas station using a 20 year old machine. Changed me the same as my 175/70 tires on my honda. Tire lube is meant to not destroy wheels. Plenty left on them but I assure you it rubbed off instantly.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397832703 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1397832703 |
You tease! Pics of whole car on this setup? Looks nice.
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Curious if these fit over the 11.75" TSE brakes. That'd determine if they're really an option to 6ULs if they're not in stock for a long time.
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I was surprised to find that even the 15x7 size Advanti clears our Good-Win Racing 11 inch Big Brake kits.
I don't have a template for that 11.75 kit but if somebody can send it my way....then I can check it. |
Necro bump
Wheels suck, rubbed a car at WRL @ TWS. Protruding spoke design caused the break, big curb could do the same thing. http://oi57.tinypic.com/rtzywn.jpg |
Blaming the wheels for running into another car is....creative. Most track day guys don't do that. In our Spec Miata wheels the Team Dynamics brand redesigned their Pro 1 to make it the Pro 1.2/1.3 years ago and the difference was pulling the spokes inward because Spec Miata racers often do rub wheel to wheel....but most other classes don't do that (and many club track events send you home if you do).
If you plan to rub wheels regularly at speed you might want to consider 15x9 949 Racing Wheels, the spokes are a bit more inward...and shipment expected soon. No, minor curb contacts typical when parking won't do that in our experience with these. Had a few customers with stretched fitments like 205/50 on 15x9 already rub curbs hard and give up some metal and paint shavings but so far only damage we have seen from those incidents is cosmetic,...not total wheel destruction like you did here. |
Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 1204405)
Necro bump
Wheels suck, rubbed a car at WRL @ TWS. Protruding spoke design caused the break, big curb could do the same thing. http://oi57.tinypic.com/rtzywn.jpg I think you are downplaying the contact as it was more than just a rub. Here are the videos from both cars showing the incident that broke the passenger side rear wheel on the red 93 Miata: |
Here.
Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 1204426)
I think you are downplaying the contact as it was more than just a rub. Here are the videos from both cars showing the incident that broke the passenger side rear wheel on the red 93 Miata:
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 1204427)
Here.
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That was a serious impact. I bet the control arms are bent, too. It's kind of difficult to blame the wheels when you are in an actual collision.
If you want the body to take any impacts and not the wheels and suspension, maybe drop back to 15x6.5's. :rolleyes: Or get some of these: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1423514347 |
I drove my car off a cliff and it's smashed. What a piece of junk. Get it together, Mazda
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Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 1204426)
I think you are downplaying the contact as it was more than just a rub. Here are the videos from both cars showing the incident that broke the passenger side rear wheel on the red 93 Miata:
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 1204455)
Still see the exposed spoke being a very bad idea.
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I've got two sets of these now and am really happy with them for track days. If I were racing in a contact series (note: WRL is "supposed" to be no contact -- but "stuff" happens), I'd want something more tank-like. Note that Spec Miata has a 13+ pound minimum weight (might even be 13.5, can't remember) for 15x7s! That's the kind of wheel you use for rubbing!
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Is anyone else a little impressed that the failure didn't immediately crack the other spokes and that the car was still driving fine?
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Yes, it looked like the impact broke the wheel lip inward rather than skinning off all of the spokes as I was expecting to see from the language used.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 1204405)
Wheels suck, rubbed a car at WRL @ TWS. Protruding spoke design caused the break, big curb could do the same thing.
What's the deal with these guys running into each other with plenty of room on the track? They both look like the guy on the outside is turning into the guy that's ahead on the inside. :dunno: |
We have had a couple impacts over the years that have netted the same result with a pro race 1.2, TR Motorsports C1M, and bent 6UL. The 6UL was the hardest hit and came out the best, but with that impact, I would not be surprised that any wheel would have been messed up.
Also, that wheel was messed up about 2 hours into the race and still did another 7 hours just like that. Since it was on the passenger side, they didn't notice until after the race. I have no idea how it didn't lose pressure, but it didn't. |
Originally Posted by rharris19
(Post 1204624)
Also, that wheel was messed up about 2 hours into the race and still did another 7 hours just like that. Since it was on the passenger side, they didn't notice until after the race. I have no idea how it didn't lose pressure, but it didn't.
Keep in mind the flow-forming of the rim. I would expect that to make the rim harder but perhaps more brittle. A pure cast wheel might have been more likely to bend. Dunno. |
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