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gospeed81 02-10-2010 04:54 PM

WTB Badass Suspension - Tein, FCM, whatever
 
Can come up with $500-1000.

Sicked and tired of OTS spring/shock combos...I've tried every single motherfucking one and they're all shit. The combos that handle well keep me visiting the chiropractor, and the comfortable setups are wallowy and 13"+ ride height.

I want to make sure nobody has something sitting around before I PayPal Shaikh my daughter's birthday party money.

Priorites:

1. Ride. I don't wanna hear my wife bitching and complaining when I finally get her in the car for a date...ruins my libido.
2. Good for spirited driving and AutoX...no track days planned.
3. Fits budget, unless you just wanna ship now I can send you the other $1K when I graduate.


I know that Flex setup in the Classifieds is ideal, but can't touch his price.

If you've got something a little under that price point I'll do what I can with my paycheck tomorrow.

Thanks,

Damon

Bond 02-10-2010 05:04 PM

Get some ricelands

gospeed81 02-10-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bond (Post 520640)
Get some ricelands

I'm almost there...fuck...might as well.

Had PMed the guy here (thymer I believe) about the uber-cheap set he had a while back, but they had already sold.


I should add PROVEN and DEPENDABLE to the list. I'm ready to slap something in and never remove my gas line cover plate again.

Hi Im Simon 02-10-2010 05:15 PM

after you get the riceland throw them in the trash.

gospeed81 02-10-2010 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Hi Im Simon (Post 520644)
after you get the riceland throw them in the trash.

The point of this thread is to not end up on Ricelands.

slutz4 02-10-2010 08:01 PM

Just get some nice konis and upgrade from there. Thats what I should of done. Or find a used set of tein flex.

gospeed81 02-10-2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by slutz4 (Post 520690)
Just get some nice konis and upgrade from there. Thats what I should of done.


Been there...done that...wasn't impressed.



Originally Posted by slutz4 (Post 520690)
Or find a used set of tein flex.


Pretty much the reason I started this thread in the WTB section with Tein in the title.

Ben 02-10-2010 08:05 PM

Highly recommend Tein SS for your goals and budget.

gospeed81 02-10-2010 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 520694)
Highly recommend Tein SS for your goals and budget.

Thanks.

I tried talking p51lowballer out of his...but he can't afford to replace them with that flex either. Think they're worth buying new?

Aren't they just height adjustable and undervalved?

Not that I'm shooting for the moon, but I am going to be a little picky spending twice what I've spent before.

Ben 02-10-2010 08:15 PM

They're cheap, perform well, and are comfy. Much comfier than Flex.

Flex will give you better bump travel and more direct steering feel. They're also dramatically less comfy and more expensive.

thagr81 us 02-10-2010 08:34 PM

Hate I can't hook you up man... Try checking out SCCA Forums?

gospeed81 02-10-2010 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 520701)
They're cheap, perform well, and are comfy. Much comfier than Flex.

Flex will give you better bump travel and more direct steering feel. They're also dramatically less comfy and more expensive.

Truly thanks for the heads-up.

Any idea how the Basics compare to an FCM revalve with FM-like spring rates on the comfort side?

Also, where does the SS fit in here?

webby459 02-10-2010 09:45 PM

gosped, you sure you don't want to keep those Billies and send them out to Stewart or Bilstein to set them up for you? You can even keep those springs you have, unless you are planning on doing some more serious autocrossing.

No shit, my FCMs ride much better than my old FM kit with KYB AGX. And that's with 550/350s on the FCMs, and the normal FM springs on the AGX. You could be out the door for $400 or less, and I think you'd be happy.

I'll let you "have" my FCMs for $2200 :giggle:. I'll even autograph them for you!

W

Rennkafer 02-10-2010 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 520725)
Truly thanks for the heads-up.

Any idea how the Basics compare to an FCM revalve with FM-like spring rates on the comfort side?

Also, where does the SS fit in here?

This one I can help with... two words, Basics SUCK.

Before I had my current FCM setup (adjustables with 550/350 springs) I had the Tein Basics (7/6 or 391/335) that were on the car when I got it. The Teins were harsh as hell at low speeds, wallowy at high speeds, and God forbid you hit a bump mid corner as they were VERY prone to hitting the stops in back... the FCMs are better in every possible way, handling, ride, bump travel...

Having owned a ton of different cars, a fair number of which had aftermarket suspension and saw track/AX use I would say without any hesitation that Tein Basics are the worst coilovers I've ever driven on... period.

webby459 02-10-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rennkafer (Post 520743)
my current FCM setup (adjustables with 550/350 springs)

Quoted for WOW. You wants boyfriend?

Eadohcturbo 02-10-2010 11:50 PM

I'd say some Flex ...with an EDFC ,for the times you need to go from soft to hard ;)

Rennkafer 02-11-2010 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 520744)
Quoted for WOW. You wants boyfriend?

lulz... wifey says no pets

p51hellfire 02-11-2010 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Eadohcturbo (Post 520796)
I'd say some Flex ...with an EDFC ,for the times you need to go from soft to hard ;)

you mean hard to harder.... lol
honestly gospeed I'm loving my tiens just put them in and there the tits!! I wish I could've gotten the flex's. I can't imagine what they would felt like :drool:

gospeed81 02-11-2010 07:09 AM

webby and Renn:

Thanks for the positive reinforcement. I've been talking to Shaikh a lot and he's got a setup ready to start for me...just gotta send him PayPal.

I wanted to make sure no one had any affordable Flex sitting around, and that I wasn't missing anything. I should have known from all that reading that there's no substitute for a quality re-valve.

I'm going to have him set them up for 450/300 rates since you can run +-100, allowing me to run anything from my current setup (350/250) to ya'll's setup (550/350) while staying within that tolerance, in the front, and half that tolerance in the rear, and having the sweet spot set in a pretty common rate combo.

Thanks again.



EDIT: The problem with revalving my current Billies is that they are the NB bodies, which are nearly an inch longer (that's what she said). I'd be revalving a new set of NA bodies if I did this.

mgeoffriau 02-11-2010 09:29 AM

Seems like the way to go. I've still got my H&R coilovers sitting in a box, unused, and I'm trying to decide whether to give them a shot or just save and go straight to an FCM setup.


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