93' Miata stolen and flipped build thread
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So looking at this Vband 6258 EWG, it doesn't look much longer than a regular 2860 or 2871. It looks considerably shorter than the IWG.
Do you happen to have dimensional measurements for your turbo Jeff in comparison to the 2860? Gears in my mind are turning..........
Do you happen to have dimensional measurements for your turbo Jeff in comparison to the 2860? Gears in my mind are turning..........
#3365
Or maybe I shouldn't and save you some money...
After researching the aluminum CHRA assembly weight savings, from what I read, Bryan may even be on the conservative side. The few threads I read mentioned 6-8lb weight difference. That is huge.
EO2K, I'm going to weigh mine tomorrow, if you can do the same it'd be interesting to see the weight difference between both our turbos.
#3366
So this is going to sound like a really dumb question, but what is the biggest differences between say an EFR and a Garrett 2560R or similar?
My plan currently is to go with the China Charger T3, but these are so amazing looking. And I can only imagine the performance.
Like we were saying with budget, by buying this or a higher quality Garrett, my build could essentially get more expensive based on other items I'd by to match everything up.
That being said, an example would be buying Lars' kit for $1250 for the entire hotside, vs. an EFR at ~$1200+, plus the ~$800 for the Fab9 manifold. And then I'd still have to worry about everything else.
I'm rambling because I'm tired, but I'm just trying to process this. I'd assume if my power goals were elevated, this would make more sense, but I really only want 220-250, for now.
My plan currently is to go with the China Charger T3, but these are so amazing looking. And I can only imagine the performance.
Like we were saying with budget, by buying this or a higher quality Garrett, my build could essentially get more expensive based on other items I'd by to match everything up.
That being said, an example would be buying Lars' kit for $1250 for the entire hotside, vs. an EFR at ~$1200+, plus the ~$800 for the Fab9 manifold. And then I'd still have to worry about everything else.
I'm rambling because I'm tired, but I'm just trying to process this. I'd assume if my power goals were elevated, this would make more sense, but I really only want 220-250, for now.
#3368
^ What he said.
Wasn't it 99mx5 who vented his block running just wastegate pressure on startup?
If your goals are <240hp, stick with the 2560. You'll be happy with it.
Only go this route if you decide to build your motor and do a bunch of supporting mods.
The reason a lot of us are going with the 6258 is the drop in spool time and the much wider range of boost you are able to run.
Wasn't it 99mx5 who vented his block running just wastegate pressure on startup?
If your goals are <240hp, stick with the 2560. You'll be happy with it.
Only go this route if you decide to build your motor and do a bunch of supporting mods.
The reason a lot of us are going with the 6258 is the drop in spool time and the much wider range of boost you are able to run.
#3369
But really, if you don't need big power you'll be more than happy with a 2560. Sometimes I think to myself that I should have just lowered the boost on my 2560 and enjoyed it rather than gone down the path I did. But nobody heard me say that!
Nice to see you got the turbo Jeff! First and biggest piece of the puzzle is in place now!
#3370
What he means is, only go this route if you're ready to put on your big boy pants
But really, if you don't need big power you'll be more than happy with a 2560. Sometimes I think to myself that I should have just lowered the boost on my 2560 and enjoyed it rather than gone down the path I did. But nobody heard me say that!
Nice to see you got the turbo Jeff! First and biggest piece of the puzzle is in place now!
But really, if you don't need big power you'll be more than happy with a 2560. Sometimes I think to myself that I should have just lowered the boost on my 2560 and enjoyed it rather than gone down the path I did. But nobody heard me say that!
Nice to see you got the turbo Jeff! First and biggest piece of the puzzle is in place now!
^ What he said.
Wasn't it 99mx5 who vented his block running just wastegate pressure on startup?
If your goals are <240hp, stick with the 2560. You'll be happy with it.
Only go this route if you decide to build your motor and do a bunch of supporting mods.
The reason a lot of us are going with the 6258 is the drop in spool time and the much wider range of boost you are able to run.
Wasn't it 99mx5 who vented his block running just wastegate pressure on startup?
If your goals are <240hp, stick with the 2560. You'll be happy with it.
Only go this route if you decide to build your motor and do a bunch of supporting mods.
The reason a lot of us are going with the 6258 is the drop in spool time and the much wider range of boost you are able to run.
* AEM UEGO
* AEM Boost Gauge
* GT500 injectors
* FAB9 Intercooler (To be purchased)
#3371
Yeah, I just want to get my feet wet for now, and go from there. I'm still thinking about going with Lars' setup vs the 2560 route, but who knows. I still could go either way technically. Only thing set in stone is my injectors, wideband, MS, and intercooler.
* AEM UEGO
* AEM Boost Gauge
* GT500 injectors
* FAB9 Intercooler (To be purchased)
* AEM UEGO
* AEM Boost Gauge
* GT500 injectors
* FAB9 Intercooler (To be purchased)
#3372
I wouldn't hesitate to run Lars' setup. It is cheap and fun. Many people have used the chinese turbos with success on this forum and if anything breaks it will be cheap to replace. There is something to be said about how much less a project cars stresses you out when you don't have a lot of money in it.
#3373
Overkill? Maybe. Just don't want to run the risk of running the same lines that potentially killed my 2860. Also my oil feed line was starting to get sawed through at some point.
Plus I don't like how unnecessarily long they are. Could easily take several inches out of each line.
The air filter needs a smaller inlet size since the EFR is 2.5" vs the 3" inlet of the 2860.
Excited to try the nylon braided lines rather than the stainless.
Plus I don't like how unnecessarily long they are. Could easily take several inches out of each line.
The air filter needs a smaller inlet size since the EFR is 2.5" vs the 3" inlet of the 2860.
Excited to try the nylon braided lines rather than the stainless.
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AOverkill? Maybe. Just don't want to run the risk of running the same lines that potentially killed my 2860. Also my oil feed line was starting to get sawed through at some point.
Plus I don't like how unnecessarily long they are. Could easily take several inches out of each line.
The air filter needs a smaller inlet size since the EFR is 2.5" vs the 3" inlet of the 2860.
Excited to try the nylon braided lines rather than the stainless.
Plus I don't like how unnecessarily long they are. Could easily take several inches out of each line.
The air filter needs a smaller inlet size since the EFR is 2.5" vs the 3" inlet of the 2860.
Excited to try the nylon braided lines rather than the stainless.
Here you can see how they are routed.
#3379
Monk is a twisted bastard. Funny, but soooooo twisted.
You open the box. Firework pop streamers go off in your face,
This dong(not a typo) starts playing...
And this spring load phallus pops out.
Full on inception layers of *****.
***** glitter, ***** candy, just full on Vlad levels of gay.
All for 2 rolls of tape. I don't think I've committed to anything as hard as Monk did to this box.
You open the box. Firework pop streamers go off in your face,
This dong(not a typo) starts playing...
And this spring load phallus pops out.
Full on inception layers of *****.
***** glitter, ***** candy, just full on Vlad levels of gay.
All for 2 rolls of tape. I don't think I've committed to anything as hard as Monk did to this box.
Last edited by Jeffbucc; 02-12-2015 at 12:04 AM.