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Old 08-29-2015, 07:08 AM   #3341
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A thought I had...

I don't really like threads in aluminum, and I don't really think helicoil is a long term solution.

But what if we had some captive nuts? I can mill the pockets for a press fit, to make assembly slightly easier. I think that would let us use 3/4 material as well.



The Caliper mounting nut probably doesn't need to be pocketed so deep, as is there's room for .200" of aluminum flange past the pocket, without the nut hitting the rotor.

I'm thinking square nuts, deez ones

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Looks muy sexy.
<br />Idk the engineering side of it though.
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<br />Thanks for the clarification sav.
<br />I think 949 must get their lines custom made because they are one piece on the m10x1 side.
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I would prefer a full depth flanged insert with a flat, but those are much harder to find.

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I like Sean's better.
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I would prefer a full depth flanged insert with a flat, but those are much harder to find.
So, find a lathe and make some.

I can't believe all you guys are jizzing over welders, but no one has access to a lathe or mill. Search out makerspaces in your area.
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We all have lathe and mill access lol.
<br />I'm not very good with them though.
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So, find a lathe and make some.

I can't believe all you guys are jizzing over welders, but no one has access to a lathe or mill. Search out makerspaces in your area.
You keep lumping me in with "you guys".

I was never going to run plastic spacers. Ive said it a few times, im making my own.... out of aluminum. hint- im not chucking 3" round into a hand drill and using a file. I was only answering deezums questions and giving my 0.02 about the concerns.

I have a mig, ive never really discussed anything about welders on this forum, at least not to purchase one.

If I can find insterts alrady made, it would be stupid to make them. If not, ill make them.

The closest makerspace to me is in my garage.

Whats a lathe do again?

I have a pretty good track record on this site for making ALL OF THE THINGS from scratch.
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You keep lumping me in with "you guys".
You hang out with the pigs, you're bound to get some stink on you...
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Aluminum rings are in the mail. I actually have access to the machine shop at work. Big *** Bridgeport, decent sized mill, sheet metal tools. I'm just not experienced with them.
<br />Plastic brackets finished printing, hopefully I will get them today, maybe Monday.
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So, find a lathe and make some.

I can't believe all you guys are jizzing over welders, but no one has access to a lathe or mill. Search out makerspaces in your area.
I can't believe you can't read? Thanks for you're very helpful opinion though, it's about as useful as any makerspace I've ever been to.


I'm not making flange nuts, there's no room for pre-made ones. The point of the square nut is I can get one at ace hardware if the threads ever get messed up, and it simplifies making the brackets. Plus I can buy it for $.30 instead of buying bar stock, turning a nut, and milling a flange. It needs to hold 33 something foot pounds, and that's right inside the range of a 3/8 nut.
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I can't believe you can't read? Thanks for you're very helpful opinion though, it's about as useful as any makerspace I've ever been to.


I'm not making flange nuts, there's no room for pre-made ones. The point of the square nut is I can get one at ace hardware if the threads ever get messed up, and it simplifies making the brackets. Plus I can buy it for $.30 instead of buying bar stock, turning a nut, and milling a flange. It needs to hold 33 something foot pounds, and that's right inside the range of a 3/8 nut.
I typed a whole paragraph to him specifically in our emails. He read none of it.
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<p>Guys, thats rleete, not relte.</p>
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Wow, lol. Foot in mouth
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There are too many Rtele or relete named guys in this thread, I am confused.

Ace hardware has square head bolts, that might be even better than a hex nut.
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<p>Suprised me for a second too.</p>
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<p>Why would a bolt be better?</p><p>I'm all for fancy fastening ways, but there is a very minimal failure rate on the aluminum brackets.</p>
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Easier assembly, that's about it. The square nuts are sheared, so they aren't very repeatable. Press fitting them is no go, not with ace hardware bits.

Bolts won't fall out the bracket like a nut would. I've seen plenty of failures of aluminum brackets helicoils, and I don't trust aluminum threads.
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<p>Guys, thats rleete, not relte.</p>
Wondered if anyone would catch that.
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Easier assembly, that's about it. The square nuts are sheared, so they aren't very repeatable. Press fitting them is no go, not with ace hardware bits.

Bolts won't fall out the bracket like a nut would.
Peen them over. Just enough to not fall out. Still replaceable if necessary.


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I've seen plenty of failures of aluminum brackets helicoils, and I don't trust aluminum threads.
I wouldn't either. At least not on brakes. I'm old fashioned that way.
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Peen them over. Just enough to not fall out. Still replaceable if necessary.I wouldn't either. At least not on brakes. I'm old fashioned that way.
Yes, this
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