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Old 10-05-2015, 10:58 PM   #4301
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oh.
well.
ok then.

lol

but still. not sure if the holset idea is so awesome, there was like 3 guys totall that did this. not a road commonly traveled. and not very well documented either
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but he's already running basically a sr 2554 setup

....and here's what I challenge you to aidan: build this setup you're dreaming of, then add up all the cost. then compare to a "proven" setup and see how much cheaper it was. then realize why our "community" is so "cookie cutter"
I built my own setup back in 08 for cheap and it was reliable. I bought quality parts where I needed to, cheaper parts where I could get away with it. Found deals on used parts to hold cost down when I could. You can for sure build a setup that's good for less than buying a new baller setup.

Besides he has a 1.6, you already know he's not looking for a baller *** setup. If he really wanted "the best" he'd 1.8 swap it first. Sounds to me like he just wants a reliable, good setup that won't break the bank and work with his current engine setup. So used garrett, some other used quality turbo, he mentioned ebay so that might be an option. Though I'd rather buy a used Garrett myself if I could find one for the same money. That probably won't be easy though.
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oh.
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ok then.

lol
Shoulda made that clear. This manifold is getting welded and tracked for at least another year or more. I'm going to beat the **** out of it. Hopefully the 1.8 lives.

I'm going to be building my own manifold/downpipe anyways. So the only cost difference is the turbo. $2-300 holset? Or $1600 EFR.

1200 is like 6 track days. Or the commanche I've been wanting. Or another Miata for Hailey. Not going to go EFR.

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but still. not sure if the holset idea is so awesome, there was like 3 guys totall that did this. not a road commonly traveled. and not very well documented either
So perfect for me right?
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Shoulda made that clear. This manifold is getting welded and tracked for at least another year or more. I'm going to beat the **** out of it. Hopefully the 1.8 lives.

I'm going to be building my own manifold/downpipe anyways. So the only cost difference is the turbo. $2-300 holset? Or $1600 EFR.

1200 is like 6 track days. Or the commanche I've been wanting. Or another Miata for Hailey. Not going to go EFR.



So perfect for me right?
I'm confused, but now assume your car is not 1.6 but 1.8.

Not to sound crazy, but the GT3271 was like 750 new back in the day. New, and that's big enough to make 350whp. Bet you could find a used one for less.
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Aidan

I'm not saying EFR or bust.
But when guys are all like "omgz bro, 2000 dollar performance for 200, all the guiz spending money on nice parts are chumps" I usually laugh.

You can go used garrett. Or used holset. or whatever. The only problem with going the path less traveled is the much higher probability of failure vs much higher probability of success.

If you fail, you just wasted all that money. ALLOFIT
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Not saying my 200 will be 2000. But the current discussion is how to get my 200 as close to 2000 as possible.

As of now I think holset will be my best bet.

And I know you think its silly. But I guarantee I can sell a holset manifold+downpipe on the classifieds real quick.
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No worries. Just really weigh out your options and keep in mind that sometimes more investment up front ends up being less investment overall.
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But where is the fun in that....

Worst case is I throw my current t3 flanged turbo on it and make a new downpipe. And shoot for the moon.
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I currently use 4psi when I drive on the track. And I'm ok with that.

I'm not a good enough driver to use any more.

But I like big hard projects
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Ok back on real track.

I kinda want a 3rd car. Miata is getting to tracky to want to drive all the time.

And this idea has been kicking around in my head for a while. And after seeing gesso's I want one even more.

Jeep comanche. I have found them in california for dirt cheap because they don't pass smog. Buy, drive to oregon, no smog here. Profit.

4.slow I6 is reliable, and the same one that is in the GF's jeep. Need to learn that platform anyways, kills 2 birds with one stone.

Only issue is they are hard to find in red.

Budget is 2k
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Ok back on real track.

I kinda want a 3rd car. Miata is getting to tracky to want to drive all the time.

And this idea has been kicking around in my head for a while. And after seeing gesso's I want one even more.

Jeep comanche. I have found them in california for dirt cheap because they don't pass smog. Buy, drive to oregon, no smog here. Profit.

4.slow I6 is reliable, and the same one that is in the GF's jeep. Need to learn that platform anyways, kills 2 birds with one stone.

Only issue is they are hard to find in red.

Budget is 2k
Well you gotta decide if you want a street car or a track car. I personally want a car I can drive on the street. But I have other DD so I don't have to drive the miata everyday, I just want the car to be reliable and comfortable enough that I can drive it everyday. For sure with what you want to do, you need a reliable DD in case the miata is on jackstands.

And used turbo miata parts sell easy. I sold my used FM manifold setup for an external gate for 300 here. Someone got a sweet manifold and it sold fairly quick.
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Miata is way past street car
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Yeah, just do like Pat and buy a C63AMG. Problem solved.
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Boring. I don't like driving cars that I'm not worried about breaking down.

Pick 1
Comanche
CRX
Civic
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Well, the Comanche will be cool but honestly I think it's kinda too similar to your Ford. And there's no way you'd be able to keep it stockish, so you'd end up making it horrible to drive too.

CRX -- too similar to Miata (in the sense of two seats tiny car) and they're not super plentiful.

I don't like the Civic option.

Give me more options to recommend from.

How 'bout a saab?

Merkur XR4Ti?
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Yeah, just do like Pat and buy a C63AMG. Problem solved.
Yeah it was kind of an impulse buy on the C63. But I love it now and plan to keep it forever. It's funny how fast a stock 4 door luxury boat with a NA V8 actually is. At the last test and tune I won 18 out of 19 races. Lost to a V8 swapped S10 on slicks. By .5 seconds!

The C63 made me change my goals on the miata.

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Boring. I don't like driving cars that I'm not worried about breaking down.

Pick 1
Comanche
CRX
Civic
CRX

But there are several german cars too if you like wrenching all the time to keep them running.
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Merkur XR4Ti
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I still like the Comanche. If I can find one in red I'm buying it.

Now I need gessos help. Probably concealer404 too. I know I want the 4.0. Are there major differences between years? Axles? Transmissions?
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1985 Merkur XR4ti

offer $2k?

hee hee hatchback practicality (i've slept in the back of one of these) and nice highway comfort. Good handling, turbo, manual, and red. A few super cheap bolt ons and they're pretty fun too...

Edit: Holy crap it's perfect.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/5187450716.html
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