Rebuild all the salvage Miatas! ASS! - Page 45 - Miata Turbo Forum -Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-27-2014, 11:24 PM   #881
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Erat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 3,881
Total Cats: 219
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
There is a bright side to all of this. You just can't see it yet
His dad buys him a new car.
Erat is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 12:55 AM   #882
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (24)
 
curly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 11,632
Total Cats: 463
Default

The bright side is an NA swap hands down.

The MSM/NB chassis has been holding us back since day one. MSM specific interior, wiring, exterior, it all holds a premium and kills the joy of cheap turbo miatas.

I say '92-'95, buy year specific MS2, swap in MSM motor with Absurdflow setup and exhaust, anything else NB drivetrain related that isn't damaged, and bam: car of my dreams.

I'm thinking classic red, smurf blue, or a while car in absolute perfect condition paint wise would be best.

This is of course, after you spend 40-600 years driving it N/A at the same time as honing your MS skills and driving skills and tracking the mothing f'ing s**t out of it.
curly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:02 AM   #883
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
blaen99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,112
Total Cats: 28
Default

My condolances.

But I'd like to +1 Curly - I'm driving a NA in not-so-hot condition with some pretty nice parts for Curly's exact reasoning. NA's are cheap and easy to find.
blaen99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:05 AM   #884
I take big bites
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
turbofan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,985
Total Cats: 409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by curly View Post
The bright side is an NA swap hands down.

The MSM/NB chassis has been holding us back since day one. MSM specific interior, wiring, exterior, it all holds a premium and kills the joy of cheap turbo miatas.

I say '92-'95, buy year specific MS2, swap in MSM motor with Absurdflow setup and exhaust, anything else NB drivetrain related that isn't damaged, and bam: car of my dreams.

I'm thinking classic red, smurf blue, or a while car in absolute perfect condition paint wise would be best.

This is of course, after you spend 40-600 years driving it N/A at the same time as honing your MS skills and driving skills and tracking the mothing f'ing s**t out of it.
Dis guy... Dis guy gets it. This is what I'm thinking. I love love the NB looks though.
turbofan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:07 AM   #885
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 3,094
Total Cats: 117
Default

Holy **** this is a train wreck. Glad everyone could walk away.
jacob300zx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:08 AM   #886
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 33,150
Total Cats: 1,989
Default

sorry gayz, but I disagree about the na idea.
it takes significant mods to get an na chassis to even feel like an nb
looks are subjective, but I just cannot for the life of me see how an na looks better. I have yet to see an na that I think actually looks as good as similarly modded nb.

plus, you can get high mile basic nb's for pretty cheap these days

*edit: before someone thinks I'm making this up:
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4776555154.html
NB roller, $500
Quote:
I have a 1999 Mazda Miata rolling shell/chassis and parts for sale.
It has a Full interior,
trunk lid,
both doors,
steering column,
both seats,
Head for a 1.8 and for a 1.6 motor(both are included)
full intake for a 1.8
Raceland Header exhaust
starter
2 cooling fans
5 speed manual transmission
transmission bracket
airbox
driveshaft
rear subframe stiffing bracket
front and rear subframe,
all suspension components besides the struts
Also has the LSD rear differential and rear brakes
It has a set of 4 aftermarket spoked black wheels, and is on some spares to roll it.
A ton more as well but thats the main stuff.
It's a great parts car and a more than reasonable price. Bring a trailer to tow home, or depending on where your located I can deliver for a little extra money. Asking 500 dollars for everything obo call or text Adam (916) eight seven one-8141
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:09 AM   #887
SadFab Sales Lady
iTrader: (5)
 
aidandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Beaverton, USA
Posts: 14,787
Total Cats: 930
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbofan View Post
Dis guy... Dis guy gets it. This is what I'm thinking. I love love the NB looks though.
Is the MSM motor a lot better than the 1.8? Or is it the trans/diff thats better.
aidandj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:16 AM   #888
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (24)
 
curly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 11,632
Total Cats: 463
Default

1.6 Miatas are better in every aspect save their engine size and diff. Drive a stock 1.6 (long nose with trunk switch are HUGE priorities) that's in good shape for a while, you'll see what I'm talking about. Mazda slowly ruined Miatas starting in '94.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aidandj View Post
Is the MSM motor a lot better than the 1.8? Or is it the trans/diff thats better.
His MSM motor is TSE built with a giant Absurdflow setup on it. Huge amount of money dumped into it by the PO, would be stupid to let insurance crush it or to not use it in another project.
curly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:20 AM   #889
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 33,150
Total Cats: 1,989
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by curly View Post
1.6 Miatas are better in every aspect save their engine size and diff. Drive a stock 1.6 (long nose with trunk switch are HUGE priorities) that's in good shape for a while, you'll see what I'm talking about. Mazda slowly ruined Miatas starting in '94.
does my dads flawless 91 with 80k miles never modded in maintained perfectly count?

I'm really trying to believe you, but our experiences have been polar opposite apparently.

*edit:

Though I must say, if he's gonna track it, might as well go na with the least options to make it as light as possible.
Cage it and go nuts
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:25 AM   #890
SadFab Sales Lady
iTrader: (5)
 
aidandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Beaverton, USA
Posts: 14,787
Total Cats: 930
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by curly View Post
1.6 Miatas are better in every aspect save their engine size and diff. Drive a stock 1.6 (long nose with trunk switch are HUGE priorities) that's in good shape for a while, you'll see what I'm talking about. Mazda slowly ruined Miatas starting in '94.



His MSM motor is TSE built with a giant Absurdflow setup on it. Huge amount of money dumped into it by the PO, would be stupid to let insurance crush it or to not use it in another project.
Makes sense, I seemed to have forgotten Ed had a TSE motor, for some reason I thought it was stock.

Ed I'm still hunting for a hardtop if you end up parting out. Just throwing that out.
aidandj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:30 AM   #891
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 3,094
Total Cats: 117
Default

If you are a old British roadster fan you will prefer the NA. There really is a huge difference depending on how you drive the car. I prefer the NA for around town and the NB for long highway trips. I think the NA has more soul, the NB is a better car. You either get it or you don't, either way they are both nice cars.
jacob300zx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 01:45 AM   #892
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 683
Total Cats: 27
Default

Hmmmm an NA with a half cage and an MSM drivetrain swap... why does that sound familiar...
greddygalant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 02:10 AM   #893
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Savington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 13,362
Total Cats: 809
Default

That car is cursed. Glad you and your dad are OK.
Savington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 02:47 AM   #894
I take big bites
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
turbofan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,985
Total Cats: 409
Default

I know what I'm getting into with NA vs NB. I've driven both, I owned a bone stock '97, I owned that stock 10AE, and I drove a 92 sunburst that was clean and all original. By far I preferred the 10AE, then the '97, and the '92 was a distant last. The original NA was a sweet little car but much too soft and gutless to be of any real interest. I'd happily add the extra weight and complexity and start with an NB like the 10AE.

What an NA gets me is less weight and no emissions.

I really do need to think long and hard about what I want though. I will be doing some tests to the motor before I pull it: compression and leak down to see how healthy it is, at least.

I had been thinking that if I managed to blow my motor with my ECU meddling or whatever that i would do a swap of some sort, but I am nervous about that because I think I could stumble through a tub swap with just a little help from CSTG, but a full engine swap would leave me feeling pretty lost.

So, in the end... I don't know what to do. First things first, need to get the car back here and find out how much they're going to give me for it. Once I know how much money I have I'll start looking.

Not gonna lie, a part of me really wants to go S2k. But I love my Miata so much, so who knows.

Last edited by turbofan; 11-28-2014 at 03:31 AM.
turbofan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 02:59 AM   #895
I take big bites
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
turbofan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 5,985
Total Cats: 409
Default

You see...

Depending on how much they give me for it...

This is the PERFECT opportunity to do a catfish or exocet
turbofan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 03:30 AM   #896
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 638
Total Cats: 102
Default

:(
gesso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 09:45 AM   #897
Elite Member
iTrader: (19)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 5,184
Total Cats: 321
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbofan View Post
Now it's the other QP and I'm sure there's more damage.
Yeah, the way it popped the trunk, it's a good bet it is twisted.

That sucks. In for a jeffbuck type rebuild.
rleete is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 09:49 AM   #898
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (24)
 
curly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 11,632
Total Cats: 463
Default

At least an exocet will keep you from driving it in the rain so much.
curly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 09:57 AM   #899
Elite Member
 
Jeffbucc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 946
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rleete View Post
That sucks. In for a jeffbuck type rebuild.
I ship the exocet plan. Might be even more dangerous if you keep the current turbo setup though.

Attached Thumbnails
Rebuild all the salvage Miatas! ASS!-161634__unopt__safe_cutie-mark-crusaders_spoiler-s03e04_babs-seed_jumping_artist-walterwitt_one-.gif  
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2014, 09:59 AM   #900
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 5,808
Total Cats: 551
Default

Glad you guys are ok. Be thankful.
hornetball is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need help - Stock Balancer and Fastforward overlay pulleys Frank_and_Beans Supercharger Discussion 13 09-12-2016 09:17 PM
LucaCarMods's Boosted Dutch Miata Build! LucaCarMods Build Threads 11 02-14-2016 07:13 AM
3rd Time's a Charm...hopefully. zephyrusaurai Meet and Greet 2 09-28-2015 11:59 PM
First Miata Rhidell Meet and Greet 1 09-27-2015 10:42 AM


Tags
arborist, ass yo, can your honda do this, dat dent do, drift king, hoonigan, mad torque steer, putty in our hands, raced srt-4...lost, squirrel!, ti curse, tis but a scratch!, tokyo drift, turbo spooled, vtek kicked in (again) yo, vtek kicked in yo, wtf is wrong with me?

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:28 AM.