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Old 03-11-2017, 10:52 AM
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Default Ted75zcar's questionable logic - the '91 compound turbo-super

So, I think I would like a single consolidated spot to record various random aspects of my project. I have been working on this for several years now. There are bits and piece scattered throughout the forumverse.

At a high level, the car that will hopefully be back on the road this summer is a '91 Mariner with a 1.8 swap, compounded turbo-super. I am using a NA block, but it does not have the second oil feed, not sure what year beyond that. I am also using a VVT head and VICs intake. Guts are all good stuff, wiseco 8.5's, Carrillo super-A, ST heavy doubles with 1mm OS In/Ex (Inconel Ex.). FI - Garrett GTX2867R, Begi mani and long tube divorced, MP62. Drive-train - FM2 clutch, 6-speed, 4.1 LSD, '94 subframes. Stops - FM BBK (4-wheel). Suspension - FM2.5. Grips - Dunlop Direzza DZ101 on Konig Helium, 205/50/R15 EM - MS3PRO

This car has to date been exclusively street driven, I may at some point take it out for track days, but it will never be a tracked or raced car.

I am in the process of building the second version based on the parts above. The first version served as a proof of concept. It was based on a stock bottom end 1.6 with a fair amount of head work. FI started as a GTX2867R - OA2076, but the turbo had some significant issues and was swapped out for a 48trim GT2871 churbo. EM - MS2PNP. I drove this setup for about 6 months and it was a blast. I also discovered several design opportunities, and quickly ran out of rod. Here is a VD plot of the 1.6 version


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some more random pics from the 1.6 build

air diagram


alternator bracket


car front view


engine overview


Intake


Mounted Alternator


Mule mount Front


Mule mount Rear


Oil cooler
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more random pics from the 1.6 build

oil filter


SC bottom


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I think that this is the last pic taken of the 1.6 setup prior to dismantle

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So far this winter I have moved the evap canister to the driver side rear wheel well, sorry for the rotated picture, will need to learn how to get it to not do that ...

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re-factored the fuel system component locations

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added 27 channels of CAN based acquisition (tinyIOx) - rotated again, WTF, tinypic can SMD

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and am going through the head, figured the rotation thing out

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Block is at the builder now, ton of stuff to do before getting it back on the road.
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Here are a couple of fun-ish visuals from an excel tool I created to calculate seat dimentions for my 5 angle cut. The first image is at 0 lift, the second at 0.025

the second two show the stock valve vs the OS valve on the 5 angle at 0" and 0.025" lift

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and here is some eye candy from a MATLAB script I wrote to characterize the MP62. The MP62 compressor map doesn't extend far enough into the operating regions I am concerned about, and some of the information there is hard to extract (like VE).



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Forgot how much of a PITA it is to cut these seats by hand. 1 down, 15 to go ... pretty darn happy with the lap line results though

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This is hilariously complex and very cool.
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Originally Posted by Savington
This is hilariously complex and very cool.
complex? Psshhhh naw....

thanks!

and if somebody fixed my image rotation up there for me, you the boss
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What are you doing with the 1.6 head???
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Fun. Fun. Fun. Enjoying this thread.
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Sub'd, will be watching this one for sure! I like the valve pics showing lift with the angled valve job, pretty cool!
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Looks good! Will v2 still use a turbo blowing into a supercharger?
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Originally Posted by PSI
What are you doing with the 1.6 head???
undecided
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Originally Posted by oreo
Looks good! Will v2 still use a turbo blowing into a supercharger?
yep. It worked out really well for me, and I think I can live with the maximum boost limitation. Plus, I will be able to leverage the V1 charge piping, which is big. I am switching from a twinscrew to a roots, I think the roots is actually a better option.
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