Bill Nye and Ken Ham to debate evolution vs. creationism 2/4/14
02-05-2014, 01:17 PM
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Everything around us was designed by god for us. Like this banana for instance. It fits perfectly in the hand with a non slip surface and a freshness indicator. You also get an easy open tab on top, and a biodegradable wrapper.
I can't help but be enraged daily in my browsing of the internet. Anything that is good, goes well for someone, or someone survives an accident or natural disaster, it is automatically god, without any sort of thought process. It's like people race to try and be the first one to leave a comment about god and how good he is. SHUT UP! There is no thought process in some of these peoples heads. Living in the bible belt certainly doesn't help.
I can't help but be enraged daily in my browsing of the internet. Anything that is good, goes well for someone, or someone survives an accident or natural disaster, it is automatically god, without any sort of thought process. It's like people race to try and be the first one to leave a comment about god and how good he is. SHUT UP! There is no thought process in some of these peoples heads. Living in the bible belt certainly doesn't help.
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02-05-2014, 01:23 PM
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Everything around us was designed by god for us. Like this banana for instance. It fits perfectly in the hand with a non slip surface and a freshness indicator. You also get an easy open tab on top, and a biodegradable wrapper.
I can't help but be enraged daily in my browsing of the internet. Anything that is good, goes well for someone, or someone survives an accident or natural disaster, it is automatically god, without any sort of thought process. It's like people race to try and be the first one to leave a comment about god and how good he is. SHUT UP! There is no thought process in some of these peoples heads. Living in the bible belt certainly doesn't help.
I can't help but be enraged daily in my browsing of the internet. Anything that is good, goes well for someone, or someone survives an accident or natural disaster, it is automatically god, without any sort of thought process. It's like people race to try and be the first one to leave a comment about god and how good he is. SHUT UP! There is no thought process in some of these peoples heads. Living in the bible belt certainly doesn't help.
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02-05-2014, 01:31 PM
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I have never understood why so many of the people who are strongly impassioned on both sides of this debate feel that the two ideas- divine providence and Darwinian evolution- are fundamentally incompatible and must therefore be mutually exclusive.
One is a philosophical concept which describes the "why" of the fundamental origin of life on earth, while the other is a very simple physical description which addresses the "how," and explores the underlying mechanics of the process by which life, once already extant, progressed from A to B to C.
These ideas are not in conflict.
For those who would stereotypically consider themselves to be of the "pro-evolution, anti-creationism" camp, I cannot understand why one must eliminate the other. Darwinian evolution describes the physical process by which life changes from one for to another- it makes no effort to explain the origin of life itself. It's almost as though they are not so much in support of any specific scientific theory as merely opposed to the concept of religion.
Likewise, adherents to the Judeo-Christian faith need not reject the ideas put forth by evolutionary science, as the Genesis story of creation is inherently allegorical in nature. It never describes the exact physical process by which the various forms of life on earth took shape, there is nothing in it to be contradicted by an evolutionist description of the process. So for these people as well, I cannot see why they must consider evolution to be an attack on their beliefs.
I mean, let us presuppose, for the sake of argument, that God exists and that the Christian bible is more-or-less accurate, if more in a figurative than a literal sense. Given that, answer me this:
If God said “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky,” who is to say by what physical process this command was actually implemented, or argue that Darwinian-style evolution did not take place during this act of "creation"?
One is a philosophical concept which describes the "why" of the fundamental origin of life on earth, while the other is a very simple physical description which addresses the "how," and explores the underlying mechanics of the process by which life, once already extant, progressed from A to B to C.
These ideas are not in conflict.
For those who would stereotypically consider themselves to be of the "pro-evolution, anti-creationism" camp, I cannot understand why one must eliminate the other. Darwinian evolution describes the physical process by which life changes from one for to another- it makes no effort to explain the origin of life itself. It's almost as though they are not so much in support of any specific scientific theory as merely opposed to the concept of religion.
Likewise, adherents to the Judeo-Christian faith need not reject the ideas put forth by evolutionary science, as the Genesis story of creation is inherently allegorical in nature. It never describes the exact physical process by which the various forms of life on earth took shape, there is nothing in it to be contradicted by an evolutionist description of the process. So for these people as well, I cannot see why they must consider evolution to be an attack on their beliefs.
I mean, let us presuppose, for the sake of argument, that God exists and that the Christian bible is more-or-less accurate, if more in a figurative than a literal sense. Given that, answer me this:
If God said “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky,” who is to say by what physical process this command was actually implemented, or argue that Darwinian-style evolution did not take place during this act of "creation"?
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02-05-2014, 02:27 PM
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what? that's your response!? do you understand how perfect that gif was?!
It's Macho Man Randy Savage in a loop so he looks like a grunting ape holding an imaginary banana. He also *SNAPS* into slim jims.
It's Macho Man Randy Savage in a loop so he looks like a grunting ape holding an imaginary banana. He also *SNAPS* into slim jims.
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